How do you beat Sifr?

@weylandcon I assume Tour Guide. I suppose one could argue for a Lab Dog if that is a problem you are having. Or something to that effect.

I hate to contribute to this deck, but I noticed that Financial Collapse might be really good here... Any deck reliant on resources will just collapse.

@weylandcon - As it can't be lowered, Lotus really hurts Black Orchestra's terrible str boost rate (also including Self-Adapting Code Wall when it releases will help) and becomes a severe sticking point for Anarch. Lockdown on Parasites stops the actual destruction (I'm not seeing cutlery at the moment). Best Defense on Peddlers to stop instant-speed Parasites.

Largely, though, double ICE R&D, your Sandburg remote, and score out behind either two ICE or a pre-rezzed Lotus. They can destroy the first ICE, but the second still costs them a bomb. I've seen a lot of Runner decks simply run out of economy cards and try to click for credits (if a deck using Orchestra has to clicks credits for a whole turn, they've gained 1.3str for the breaker. If you then make >6 credits on your turn, you're outpacing them and they're locked out from Code Gates).

Watch out for a Rebirth into Omar play and using Medium through Archives. If I get spare ICE versus Anarch, it goes there.

Overall, SIFR turned out to be nowhere near as much of a problem as I'd thought. A real benefit to people running it is that it's made David rarer. Expect to have to FIHP ICE back out once it's been SIFRsite'd, but that rarely forms a tempo hit as you're already playing it for NASX anyway.

@SecurityRake- Yeah, could try it. Overall I'd have expected Scarcity to do most of the work. There is indeed some room to fiddle around operations, though. Enforcing Loyalty is one I've been eyeing up for a while.

I imagine most decks cry if you manage to stick a Sandburg behind a rezzed Lotus Field right?

1. I assume if they play Rumor Mill your counter turn is ideally Scarcity + Lockdown on Rumor Mill?
2. You mention drip econ in the description, but that's just Commercial Bankers, right?
3. Do you think it would be possible to fit in Executive Search Firm and/or Museum? The latter could do some work with triple Consulting.

@lopert- Pretty much, yeah. Put Guard beyond it against Crim.

@percomis 1- Correct. This is the reason for finding time to tutor Scarcity early- partly to have already found your own current to override Rumor Mill, and partly to encourage the runner to play it at a sub-optimal time for them (when you can permanently deal with it).

2- For this version, yes. I used to have PADs, but then felt I could do better.

3- Unless I'm missing something ESF is somewhat overshadowed by EBC, thanks to the latter's versatility- unless you're talking about Mumbad City Hall (the Alliance tutor). That would work, but I've not found need for it yet. As for Museum, I've had it suggested to me a few times now but have resisted the include after a crisis of conscience. The deck plays late anyway, and I don't find watching the runner's hopes deflate to be as much fun as it used to. Museum would definitely work, though.

I know this question is slightly academic in light of MWL 2.0 and in a post-rotation era, but we‘re playing this at home for fun just to see if we can get it to work, and I have a major question: how do you possibly manage to find the one NASX early? You have no way of „tutoring“ it (I hate that silly verb...) that I can see, and finding one in a 54 card deck seems to be a matter of pure luck and not very likely....NASX is the cornerstone of this deck, don‘t you need 3xNASX?!

Oops, my bag. I see Executive boot camp now, /and/ I see you can get EBC with Consulting Visit if necessary, so that makes 6 cards that you could possibly draw, but still it seems like another NASX might not hurt....

yes, my brain isn‘t working well today (I stayed up too late last night...) just ignore the nonsense parts of what I wrote (like CV getting EBC out...don‘t know why I was thinking EBC was an op...). I do still think you should cut something for +1 NASX.

We tried it out tonight and it worked and was a lot of fun. Any ideas about how this deck could work in an MWL 2.0 world without FIHP and CSM?

@erasurehead- it's been a while since I've looked at the deck (and I've already become locked into a MWL2 mentality), so bear with me if I'm a bit slow or make misteaks on this.

Visit can't tutor EBC/NASX. However an over-advanced Atlas can get anything. That said my usual early game plan was to spam assets to pressure the runner into wrecking their econ and letting them reduce my board state, then rebuilding with two FIHP once they've hurt themselves too much to contest the second wave. When I typed "it wasn't about the money" I was being serious- Microtransactions was about proportional economies.

Whilst NASX was amazing in the deck it needed a pre-existing board state to work from; for the first few turns it seemed better to hide it in R&D (this isn't actually a good argument against running more than one; you're entirely correct that it would have been a sensible move). I'll also add that when it was a 49 card deck it played more smoothly, but had less late game power. I'd often mull for key tutor cards.

Now a question back at you- what did you play it against? How did the deck fare?

(And how many s did you make?)

Hi CSD! My son was playing this deck against me playing a pre MWL 2.0 Smoke (but no Rumor Mill). He kept saying, „I love playing this deck!“ over and over again. :-)

It played out pretty much as you described above with me trashing and stopping the first wave of csm+iusx+nasx asset spam, getting 6 Agenda points off two indexing and a lucky HQ run, and then not having enough Econ to stop the second wave after he fihp‘d everything back in place (I guess nobody‘s really surprised that FIHP and csm are banned, eh?). My son was getting 20+, then 40+ creds/turn, got up to about 200 Credits and even with Switchblade(+Paintbrush), it was costing me 6-7 Stealth creds(!) per ice to break, which I could only manage after numerous turns, stockpiling stealth creds on Net merkur by running on outer etr ice and pumping net merkur with cloak, lockpick & smoke Creds. After my last run on the two ice deep scoring server that I though had an agenda in it for 14 stealth credits didn‘t provide the last point, there was no way I could stockpile enough stealth again before he scored all the agendas he needed. Another indexing was out of the question, because that would have required 28 stealth creds to run it twice.

We had a lot fun watching this little masterpiece at work!

We‘re gonna try again tomorrow with me playing whizz.

Consider including cards like Sweeps Week, which can punish the runner for having bitlife a high credit count while providing you with a significant economic swing. Other cards that synergize with tags, such as Closed Accounts or Psychographics, could also strengthen your deck's control and scoring potential.

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