Khan-pile 1st draft

RainKing 14

I'm sure it's terrible but it's an idea I had when I was looking at #Compile and thinking about how to get around having to put the program it brings into play on the bottom of your deck. Then I remembered the bird breakers can be returned to hand and then replayed at a slight discount using Khan's ability. Since they are considered a "new" version of that program they won't go to the bottom of the deck.

Using the birds to derez stuff and replay them is going to get expensive, but I'm not sure what kind of economy would be efficient to fuel them. The #Cybersoft MacroDrive's should help a little. Khan's limited influence makes it a little harder too.

Any suggestions would be great!

7 comments
29 May 2018 Pomppi

Cool ideas! I'm no expert but I might switch two MacroDrives for one Sahasrara. You have the MU for it and you could use the last slot for card draw like Earthrise Hotel? Maybe even two if you cut one Career Fair as you're only using it for Daily Casts! :)

29 May 2018 RainKing

Sahasrara definitely has possibilities. I'll give it a shot.

29 May 2018 Severijn

This sounds like a fun deck to try out of Ken Tenma, since compile is a run event and he has influence to spare. I don't think you want the bird breakers as your only breakers, since they are really expensive if you plan to install after the bounce back to grip (not hand). In Khan, the idea might be to work with cloud breakers and one of each bird breaker instead?

29 May 2018 CrushU

Having played Khan a bunch, the MacroDrive is superior to Sahasrara. Money is your biggest problem, though. It was barely playable when Temüjin was legal, on the back of a ridiculous amount of money.

Career Fair doesn't fit here, you're only using it to install Daily Casts. If you switch over to a Congress economy with Data Folding and Underworld Contact, that might work, but is also a bunch of slots.

I was never able to solve the money problem. Multithreader or some other recurring credits on breakers might be enough, but I couldn't find the influence for it. The MacroDrive gives you the most impact for the influence, because of how often you're going to be installing.

29 May 2018 gumonshoe

Needs more window

30 May 2018 Severijn

The only way I ever got the bird breakers to be even remotely affordable was through London Library, a card that has no synergy or place in Khan. And even then, it was still prohibitively expensive to play the derez game. All in all, bird breakers just take up too much money. If you want to bring down the monetary cost, it costs too many slots of your decks to make it efficient. Imagine that you get there with your London library, your bad publicity and your multithreaders, only to see the opponent play a deck that has almost no ice, but lots of assets.

30 May 2018 deleriad

Maybe, the answer is Flame-out and using the birds only as a form of de-rez rather than as regular breakers. The important thing is never to have a bird in the hand so you can compile them. Then when you need to de-rez a particular bit of ice you compile the bird for the job onto a Flame out. This gets you a reasonable amount of click compression and unlike Maxwell James also works on centrals. That said, anytime you can play Maxwell James you should.

Of course you only have the influence for two Flame-out and two Compile and you won't be routinely taking advantage of Khan's ability though there's nothing to say you have to reinstall the bird you just bounced. E.g. your regular breaker suite might be Mongoose, Aumakua and Breach. Probably though this is better in Ken "Express" Tenma: Disappeared Clone or Silhouette: Stealth Operative to keep the 40 card deck but for 3 extra influence.

if you have a Flame-out on the table you can Compile a run, derez something with a bird for basically free then install, say, an Aumakua for 2 credits. Add some Same Old Thing and Rip Deal to get back a trashed Flame-out and you have a deck which will be awesome that one time it works.

Mammon might work with Flame-out if you want to play with all the criminal toys that have been buried deep in the cupboard...