Yet Another Oracle May Deck

Ventrikel 28

My own take on Oracle May + loads of events. Never tried a criminal deck before, so that might be why I wanted to do this. Trying it out tomorrow...

19 comments
30 Mar 2015 Pinkwarrior

Think id rather run Déjà Vu over Retrieval Run just because if the breaker you need to get into archive is in your heap your screwed.

30 Mar 2015 PaxCecilia

Your 4 programs take up 5, do you plan on installing Femme Fatale or Ninja over one another occasionally?

I like it though :) When I brought this out someone said "isn't Oracle May a Ken Tenma thing?" Cool to see a different take on it :)

30 Mar 2015 Ventrikel

@PaxCecilia You're quite right! I'll have to think about that... I was thinking of replacing both shaper breakers with criminal ones - for the influence and because I'll actually have to pay for installing them. I'll have to think about it some more.

@Pinkwarrior Good point, even though it wont save me any money :P

30 Mar 2015 Ventrikel

Also, I'm considering squeezing a few The Maker's Eye in there. Maybe taking out Quality Time, adding Mr. Li, and swapping ice breakers for Aurora and something to free the space and influence.

30 Mar 2015 Pinkwarrior

@Ventrikel I would strongly recomend not taking Aurora id find the 2 influence for Corroder or run Breach.

Codegate wise tho i find Peacock is actually fine more oftern than not i find it works out about the same as Gordian Blade over the course of the game since sometimes its better and sometimes it's worse.

30 Mar 2015 Ventrikel

How is Leviathan? Shouldn't cost much more than Peacock, though of course that may vary a lot from game to game...

30 Mar 2015 Ventrikel

Oooh... Comparing code gates, I realize that is a tough one. There are basically no code gates at strength 3 and literally none at strength 6 - which is where Leviathan would be the most cost effective. Looking at the number of subroutines, there are a couple of bad code gates at higher strengths (i.e. Merlin) but really none at lower strengths, and most of them have only one subroutine. So I suppose Peacock will be my breaker of choice.

31 Mar 2015 Elstyr

Hey there!

How do you make sure to find the breakers you need quickly enough? Even with three copies of Special Order it can take a lot of drawing...

Here is my original take on it: netrunnerdb.com We debatted a lot of different options and possibilities in the comments. Hope it helps you.

31 Mar 2015 Pinkwarrior

@Ventrikel looks like you answered your own question their :P

1 Apr 2015 Ventrikel

@Elstyr Thanks for your comment! I hadn't considered that. Though I think I would rather use Diesel or Quality Time than Test Run...

@Pinkwarrior I think I did... :D

1 Apr 2015 Elstyr

Well, I can't imagine running Oracle May without Test Run. It has too many synergies: pinpoint tutoring of a program and at the same time guarantying to 100% the 2 credits from Oracle May next turn and on top of that it can save a trashed program. The influence is pretty high though ;-)

1 Apr 2015 Ventrikel

Oh, you're right about the Oracle May part. But I'd like the card drawing too. 3x Special Order 2x Test Run would give good odds of finding all ice breakers quickly - after tutoring for the first two I'd have 4 cards in maybe 30 left in the deck, to find the third kind of ice breaker (keeping Femme Fatale for specific ice...). Yet with a couple of Quality Time and Oracle May I'd go through a bigger part of the deck in shorter time. Maybe that's less safe for getting the ice breakers running - but I'll need to keep drawing a lot anyway so it fills other purposes.

For me, I think this will come down to trying this out a few times to see what I'll want.

1 Apr 2015 Pinkwarrior

@Elstyr Your right that Test Run is good with Oracle May the problem is its alot of influence for a crim. Not that is completely unjustifiable here, it could be taken but only seen as both a search and a recurrence card currently Ventrikel is using Retrieval Run as recurrence so it's not really worth it here. also id want smaller costing breakers for that route since your going to have to pay for them that way.

1 Apr 2015 Elstyr

I'm not saying it's the best for is deck as it is. Just sharing my experience :-)

I used Corroder, ZU.13 Key Master and Garrote in my version. So, yeah, they are cheaper to install.

1 Apr 2015 Ventrikel

Well, I'm going to replace retrieval run with Déjà Vu. But this way, I could take test run instead if I get two more influence (switching Torch for Peacock gives me 4 influence). That makes it work better, I guess. But I can't both use it to tutor my ice breakers and use it to get a card out of the heap - so maybe I'll need three Test Run to be able to rely on it...

And I'm taking Corroder instead of Battering Ram.

1 Apr 2015 Elstyr

What you can do with Test Run and Retrieval Run is deliberately guessing wrong with Oracle May to trash your program and then install it via Retrieval Run for 2 credits. ;-)

1 Apr 2015 Ventrikel

That's a 5 cost and 2 income loss to install a program though :P

1 Apr 2015 Elstyr

Still better than 9 credits for the Torch or the Femme Fatale, isn't it? It doesn't make sense if you want to install a cheaper program of course.

The big advantage of Retrieval Run in my experience was that I could tutor it with Planned Assault. It was a "safety over flexibility" kind of choice for me. :-) But seeing that you will draw more with Diesel and Quality Time, that might not be an issue for you.

1 Apr 2015 Ventrikel

It is, it is. And taking into account that 3 credits are actually for the tutor, it's only a 4 credit cost. Still wont save me much except with Femme Fatale though. :)