2nd Place Colorado Regionals - BS Glacier

nungunz 236

Piloted this deck to 2nd place at the Colorado Springs Regionals. Just barely lost in the final game at top-table. Made the runner work for it.

Most losses came when the runner was able to get lucky and snipe Pri Req from HQ or R&D. Always made the runner work for a win, though.

Was even able to rush out a win against Valencia with a turn 3 Atlas, turn 5 Pri Req, and a turn 9 NAPD during the first round of double elims.

Overall a great tournament with a bunch of interesting and creative decks. Not a single Jinteki deck made it to top 8!

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10 May 2015 nungunz

Piloted this deck to 2nd place at the Colorado Springs Regionals. Just barely lost in the final game at top-table. Made the runner work for it.

Most losses came when the runner was able to get lucky and snipe Pri Req from HQ or R&D. Always made the runner work for a win, though.

Was even able to rush out a win against Valencia with a turn 3 Atlas, turn 5 Pri Req, and a turn 9 NAPD during the first round of double elims.

Overall a great tournament with a bunch of interesting and creative decks. Not a single Jinteki deck made it to top 8!

29 May 2015 sruman

Thanks for posting, a few questions:

  • Would you happen to remember the types of runner archetypes you faced along the way?

  • What was the general game plan against a runner who just sat back and gather money waiting for you to advance something? Were you able to sufficiently out money so Ash would stick? Rush out never-advance options + napds ?

  • Was the adonis ever trashed early without getting much money from it? Only 7 money cards ( + semi-ones like EBC and interns ) seems low. Again, obviously it worked but at first glance seems very low for a deck with a plan to score via ash.

  • Did you find the chronos project useful? Would you consider swapping one of the 2-pters and it for a 2nd 3-ptr? How about High Risk invesment in place of Priority Requestion?

30 May 2015 nungunz

A. PPVP Kate, Andy Suckers, Andy Stealth, Big Rig CT, Valencia, Headlock Reina, and Endless Waltz where pretty common from what I saw.

Top 8 was: 1. Andy Suckers 2. PPVP Kate (Me) 3. PPVP Kate 4. Big Rig CT with Suckers 5. Pawnshop Noise 6. Quetzal 7. Valencia 8. PPVP Kate

B. Honestly building big servers or even going a bit horizontal (3 servers max) with Hive worked pretty well. Often times I could bait a run on a glacier remote by IAA on a NAPD. Other times I would bounce an Adonis and drop a Project Atlas in it's place and score it the next turn.

I never really had problems keeping the runner poor the whole game, biggest issues I had were blocking early datasuckers, though eventually the Crisiums and CVS helped deal with it.

Headlock Reina was a bit of a slog. I did manage to keep her more poor than myself (locked down HQ and R&D early), but I also had money issues in that game.

Overall it depended on the opponent. Was able to play the long-game against Kate due to Blacklist stalling her out and the Chronos sealing the deal.

Honestly an ideal server would be something like: Tollbooth, Curtain Wall, OAI-Curtain Wall. Often one of the ice would be already rezzed and I could sit on upwards of 35+ credits. Breaking the first Curtain Wall trashed it and brought the second up to S10. Very pricey to get through twice.

C. Yes, definitely. But Interns or Jackson + EBC/Atlas Token brought it back fairly quickly. I did have issues with money in a few games (Reina, CT, PPVP Kate), but managed to get the train rolling eventually (Hive is your MVP for keeping Adonis safe). The original deck also included two copies of Restructure...but I never felt like I needed them.

And Ash wasn't always needed. Often a single Curtain wall or Toolbooth + other ice with a face down Ash was enough of a deterrent.

Not sure what I would cut to get more econ in there. Currently I have 15 cards that can act as Economy: 3 Cad 3 Hedge 3 OAI 1 Adonis 2 Corporate War (3 credit bonus when scored) 2 Interns (pseudo) 2 EBC (pseudo; mostly to fetch or Rez the Adonis)

D. Yes and no. Against PPVP Kate and Reina it ended up being great. Against other decks, I would have preferred the Hostile Takeover or something else. Definitely is a meta call. I was expecting a ton of PPVP Kate, MaxX, and parasite recursion, but didn't see a ton.

And no for the second. No way would I take another 3-pointer. I did originally have 2 Pri Req, but most losses in this deck come from losing a 3-pointer to a random access from HQ or R&D before the glacier could be set-up. High-Risk Investment is definitely another option, but I don't think the runner ever had enough money for me to actually care. I'd almost rather take the free rez and bounce it later if I needed money. This deck doesn't really care about surprising the runner at all after the early game so I'll take a rezzed Curtain Wall, Tollbooth, or Wormhole.

With NRE out now, I'd love to fit a Taurus in there. I'm considering losing the CVS, but it did save my ass in a few games and let me leave archives relatively undefended against datasucker decks as CVS triggers from archives.

That being said, the best runner strategy is indeed just to start moneying-up to make the super-run on your server. High-Risk Investment is definitely a deterrent to that. You also don't feel obligated to have a big-ice unrezzed on the board. When the bootcamp glacier deck becomes more popular switching to HRI might be the smart plan.

'@bblum' has posted several variants of this deck and is the originator for the archetype if you want to look at what others have done.

30 May 2015 nungunz

@sruman

A. PPVP Kate, Andy Suckers, Andy Stealth, Big Rig CT, Valencia, Headlock Reina, and Endless Waltz where pretty common from what I saw.

Top 8 was: 1. Andy Suckers 2. PPVP Kate (Me) 3. PPVP Kate 4. Big Rig CT with Suckers 5. Pawnshop Noise 6. Quetzal 7. Valencia 8. PPVP Kate

B. Honestly building big servers or even going a bit horizontal (3 servers max) with Hive worked pretty well. Often times I could bait a run on a glacier remote by IAA on a NAPD. Other times I would bounce an Adonis and drop a Project Atlas in it's place and score it the next turn.

I never really had problems keeping the runner poor the whole game, biggest issues I had were blocking early datasuckers, though eventually the Crisiums and CVS helped deal with it.

Headlock Reina was a bit of a slog. I did manage to keep her more poor than myself (locked down HQ and R&D early), but I also had money issues in that game.

Overall it depended on the opponent. Was able to play the long-game against Kate due to Blacklist stalling her out and the Chronos sealing the deal.

Honestly an ideal server would be something like: Tollbooth, Curtain Wall, OAI-Curtain Wall. Often one of the ice would be already rezzed and I could sit on upwards of 35+ credits. Breaking the first Curtain Wall trashed it and brought the second up to S10. Very pricey to get through twice.

C. Yes, definitely. But Interns or Jackson + EBC/Atlas Token brought it back fairly quickly. I did have issues with money in a few games (Reina, CT, PPVP Kate), but managed to get the train rolling eventually (Hive is your MVP for keeping Adonis safe). The original deck also included two copies of Restructure...but I never felt like I needed them.

And Ash wasn't always needed. Often a single Curtain wall or Toolbooth + other ice with a face down Ash was enough of a deterrent.

Not sure what I would cut to get more econ in there. Currently I have 15 cards that can act as Economy:

3 Cad 3 Hedge 3 OAI 1 Adonis 2 Corporate War (3 credit bonus when scored) 2 Interns (pseudo) 2 EBC (pseudo; mostly to fetch or Rez the Adonis)

If I wanted anything more, I'd probably try to add a second Adonis. Not sure what I'd cut for it...Ash maybe?

D. Yes and no. Against PPVP Kate and Reina it ended up being great. Against other decks, I would have preferred the Hostile Takeover or something else. Definitely is a meta call. I was expecting a ton of PPVP Kate, MaxX, and parasite recursion, but didn't see a ton.

And no for the second. No way would I take another 3-pointer. I did originally have 2 Pri Req, but most losses in this deck come from losing a 3-pointer to a random access from HQ or R&D before the glacier could be set-up. High-Risk Investment is definitely another option, but I don't think the runner ever had enough money for me to actually care. I'd almost rather take the free rez and bounce it later if I needed money. This deck doesn't really care about surprising the runner at all after the early game so I'll take a rezzed Curtain Wall, Tollbooth, or Wormhole.

With NRE out now, I'd love to fit a Taurus in there. I'm considering losing the CVS, but it did save my ass in a few games and let me leave archives relatively undefended against datasucker decks as CVS triggers from archives.

That being said, the best runner strategy is indeed just to start moneying-up to make the super-run on your server. High-Risk Investment is definitely a deterrent to that. You also don't feel obligated to have a big-ice unrezzed on the board. When the bootcamp glacier deck becomes more popular switching to HRI might be the smart plan.

'@bblum' has posted several variants of this deck and is the originator for the archetype if you want to look at what others have done.

30 May 2015 sruman

Thanks the great response to my questions, very informative. I usually play HB Glacier but the world has been over-run with parasites so Blue Sun has strong appeal to combat it (if can keep them off suckers). If only could find some way to get a caprice in, Blue Sun would be perfect :)

I checked out the other Boot Camp Glacier decks so I was intrigued by your choices given the relatively fewer econ cards. But if fought your way threw the economic warfare of Reina and Andy, clearly it's enough.

1 Jun 2015 nungunz

@sruman

If you're interested, my deck is pre Chrome City and nearly identical to aandries that just took down the 72-player Madison, WI Regionals.

I've made almost the same changes to my current deck as him. The only difference between his Regional winning deck and my current one is:

-1 Blacklist +1 IT Department

IT Department is pretty good. Blacklist is targeted hate, while ITD hates on everything.