Nasir's Fast Break v3.0

If you're worried about multi-HQ access, @BTrain, Imp could always become 1 Legwork or HQ interface, and the last influence could become Datasucker. The point of Dinosaurus is really to reduce your reliance on Datasucker, but you still need a few (and you don't want to tutor for them).

If you go the legwork route, you're going to use it late in the game anyway, since you're basically preventing any corp from effectively setting up a remote, ever. Won't really need more than 1.

I wouldn't swap out the Yog unless you just want to drop Dino altogether. That's sort of your big combo for not getting blown out by Inazuma. Both versions are viable, though.

I kinda like the Atman version better, because while the extra Dino will help you draw him sooner, you're not really going to need him until later anyway. And you'll be very happy you have Atman, against CI, HB: ETF, and even Jinteki: RP. But maybe with Yog at 5, you don't need it? Test it with first and see if you need it.

LARLA isn't really necessary, since you're a tempo deck that really wants to be a few steps ahead, LARLA is a pretty big tempo hit, and hard to play with Nasir. (I find anything over 2 to be difficult to play with Nasir.)

I think the cards are mostly in the right place. Testing should help to decide in what numbers each should be.

@BTrain Early HQ is also important, depending on the matchup, but Shaper is notorious for crappy HQ access.

I'm really thinking about an HQI. It just feels right in this deck, especially with Sneakdoor. I REALLLLY don't want to give up Imp, but I will if I have to.

@CJFM I also looked at dropping Corroder, and might try running this with Inti to see if the free influence might be the right move to slot in an HQI.

Interesting to see you reduce Prof Workshop. I agree that Kati is probably crucial due to uselessness of event econ.

I keep wondering if all those breakers you have are necessary. I've seen Kate builds winning tournaments with just Atman, Femme, Inti (for Wraparound), Sharpshooter and DeusX. They parasite everything below 4 strength. Then whip out Atman 4 and walk trough the most ridiculous servers. DeusX and Sharpshooter are just there to be SMCed or Clonechipped in case of emergency.

You wrote that Dinosaurus is important to be aggressive early game. How so? Which breaker do find yourself installing in it?

Oh, and also: Ice Analyzers!

@krystman so the thing with Nasir is, most Code Gates people play (Quandary, Pop-Up Window) stop him cold, and are common in the fastest decks. I'm not sure why Dino makes it "faster" exactly, and Yog is expensive, but if you can Test Run/Scavenge it out, you're able to run earlier, I guess.

Ice Analyzer is bad with Nasir.

@BTrain I'm also thinking about dropping Corroder, using Inti with 3x Atman at 0, 2, 4 and trying that out. There's more pressure on Datasuckers, but you can cut the Yog/Dino. It might be worth trying.

@krystman I dropped Personal Workshop down to 2 because unlike my big rig decks with Nasir, it's not as much of a necessity to get the pieces out on the table. And Ghost Runner really is a game-changer when it comes to Nasir. Those three cards add up easily to an extra 4 accesses per game.

And I've found that the earlier I see Dino, the better. It's amazing the once-"bad" pieces of ice that are making a comeback these days. Everyone used to rag on Hunter but I have friends using it to great effect - so you see that, and pour yourself a glass of ice cold Mimicsaurus. I'll admit that might be a little meta-specific, but really the earlier you see Dino, the better.

Say I do switch up my breaker suite to adapt the Kate tourney-winning loadout. Would it be better then to run console-less (until Astrolabe!) and fill the slots with something else? I've already made a new version that drops Corroder and Levy, and that could free up space for an additional HQI, or even a Hostage to get Kati or ProCo out when you need it. Thoughts?

@krystman @CJFM Here's the new version of this build. I think we're really on the right track here. I'm a big fan of where this deck is headed.

@krystman @CJFM Here's the new version of this build. I think we're really on the right track here. I'm a big fan of where this deck is headed.

Nasir's Fast Break v4.0

@CJFM Ice Analyzer is bad with Nasir? How so?

@BTrain Parasite Recursion Kates often don't have Consoles. Just Mem Chips. Here is an excellent build by the German Vice Champion. stimhack.com

In case of Nasir I think Toolbox could work well too. The extra link helps with traces. I'm actually tinkering with a deck based on your build right now. I want to try Alpha for early running. Test Run it round 1 or 2 to Facecheck 1-ice servers, drop in on Workshop afterwards. I reckon unrezzed ice tends to build up outside.

@krystman In my big rig Nasir, I used Toolbox and it was fantastic, but I think for now I want to try this barebones approach to running with him. I might add Toolbox back in soon, depending on how things shake out.

@krystman Ice Analyzer: Get them to rez, then it does anything. It doesn't help you install programs that you've already got on Workshop unless that program is Atman. Also Alpha is bad in many ways. Mainly, because of Atman, but also mainly because of Atman. ;)

@BTrain Keep testing! I have a feeling that Nasir will be tier 3 or 4 until Code Siphon comes out and he has a way to jump ahead in tempo. Imagine running on 0 cred, threatening to install one of your breakers OR they rez and you install one of your breakers and give you information/cash. Seems pretty good for Nasir.

@CJFM I've seen Ice Analyzer used successfully in Kate decks. It should be even more effective in Nasir. You use it for SMC / Clone Chip shenanigans. If you have 2 of them, you can Clone Chip/Parasite a Popup Window for free. If you have 3, you can Clone Chip a DeusX.

@krystman Look, I'm not saying Ice Analyzer can't be used, or even helpful. But the slot in a deck that's already tight on space is not worth spending on Ice Analyzer. You can only spend the credits once, they're not recurring, and once you get the Ice rezzed, Ice Analyzer does nothing. Late game, it's simply a dead card. You would do better with something else.

@krystman Another thing about Ice Analyzer. You can ONLY spend those credits for installing Programs, which means you can't use it for Workshop/paying through a Pop-up or Pup/paying the X cost on Atman/everything else needed in a Nasir deck. It's a fun card, don't get me wrong. It's just not a good card.