HM: Welcome to the clinic

did you consider shi-kyu over shock?

Yeah, i used them in an earlier build and am still considering to put them back in. The problem is, that my local meta likes to play at least one data-dealeler right now, which is not only negating shik.kyu but turning it into profit for the runner.

I am also still unsure about the ruling made by lucas litzinger via Twitter - if it is possible to just not activate shi.kyus power if you face a runner with data dealer i might put it back in, but if the runner can always choose to take it as an agenda, shi.kyu is a tough card to sacrifice a deckslot for (espacially if you consider how expensive it can get)

fair enough, i think ive seen data dealer once in about 20 odd games while running a similar deck so that hadnt occurred to me.

How expensive it gets is up to you, though; 1 is an overpriced shock, 3 is an underpriced Snare, etc. I tend to go for two. Although, if Data Dealer is prevalent, then perhaps not.

Given that you have to hard-score the agendas, your ice seems too fragile to keep a runner out reliably. That said, you went 7-2, so it must do the job!

Did you get much use out of closed accounts? Relying on the runner to trigger seems odd.

Until now i haven't had any problems with keeping the runner out, because my scoring server and hq are protect by tollbooth, wall of thorns and so on. Although the runner can get through R&D whenever he wants, it will cost him so much, that he doesn't want to run it too often (e.g. if there's one komainu, one pup, a yagura and a inazuma in front of it, it gets really taxing). I played some criminals with the central breakers on OCTGN (andy, sillhouette and Tenma) and got an agenda stolen from R&D only once, so i am not too afraid of them finding one.

I put closed accounts in this deck, because i had a spare influence point on the one hand and i wanted to have some kind of anti-tag me play on the other. If needed i can recur it with jackson. It is so hilarious if the runner siphons you, but you have enough credits left to play two fundraisers and a closed accounts the next turn. Closed Acc goes in line with the taxing scheme as well.

At the moment the only thing i am not too sure of are those two snowflakes.

I think the key with this deck is to see when there is a scoring window and to always have an eye on the board state. It is important to be able to rezz every ice you have in play if needed. So if your centrals are barely protected i would not overcommit on scoring an agenda, if you would have only a few credits left afterwards. Sometimes you can even just use a melange several turns in a row.

One,two, three Questions :D Why Closed Accounts? Did i miss something? How will the runner get tagged?

I splash Closed Accounts mainly as a meta-call, because lots of people in my local meta like to go "tag-me". I still consider switching out the shocks for snares though, because i actually don't need real archive protection.

I switched out the snowflakes for bastions in my last octgn matches and it worked quite well, so i might stick with those. Also my winrate is currently 9-2.

No room for Ash 2X3ZB9CY?

Yeah, Ash would probably shine in this kind of deck, but i can't afford the influence. GRNDL is too important for my economy and i don't want to drop tollbooth and jackson either.

I have been running it with Ash instead of GRNDL and running Mental Health Clinics, but I will definitely try this version out

Ash can be very good. I also tried to play health clinics, but the problem is, that you don't want to install these into your scoring server, because otherwise you need to trash them so early, that they don't net you enough credits. But you don't want to ice up another remote and so they get trashed way too fast. GRNDL on the other hand can force the runner to make an expensive run on your scoring server or otherwise it nets you at least 10 credits the next turn, so you can get from poor to rich very very fast (which is scary for the runner, considering the strong ice we play).

The same thing goes for the melanges. Classic drip eco is def. not what you want to play with this kind of deck.

Fair enough. I was actually not protecting them though. At worst, for anyone other than Whizzard it is lose 3 creds

Yeah, but to trash an installed grndl inside of the scoring server they would've to pay even more, because there should be some taxing ice in front of it (and after you scored first agenda they have to run it anyway).

And as you said Whizzard pretty much kills health clinics ;)

I'd consider Susanoo-No-Mikoto over Wall of Thorns or Tsurugi. It is more expensive than both of those and it is vulnerable to Knight. But it is less prone to Parasite, attracts Femme tokens away from Tollbooth, and harder for Atman to deal with (Inazuma, Tollbooth, and Wall of Thorns all sit at str 5).

Nice suggestion. Switching out one wall of thorns for a susanoo might definitely be a good choice. I will try that out in one of my future games :)

I have run both and prefer Susanoo. I also run Shi Kyu and it can force the runner into one. Then usually the runner needs to steal 3 agenda instead of 2

Ok, i think i've finally found my arch enemy with this deck - every big rig shaper with Magnum Opus really gets me into trouble (if i am not able to burn through my first agenda fast)

I am still trying to figure out, how i could make this deck work against strong Opus-Decks. I didn't have had too much trouble against all other opponents, so i still think, that a medtech build like this is viable. (one or two junebugs, might be worth a deckslot...)