The design of this card is so egregious that it made me log into an account I haven't accessed in years. I was fairly intrigued looking at some of the reworked Core Set cards in the System Gateway set, as they often seemed to grok the ways in which the original cards were either too efficient or overbalanced. This card, on the other hand, abuses a disruptive technique that ANR made prohibitively expensive with good reason. It's almost difficult to describe the magnitude of how game breaking this ID is, because designing it requires a fundamental lack of knowledge of how Corp functions in regards to ICE. This attacks multiple pieces of ICE, often times in multiple servers, at the control of the runner, and is triggered by either player directly interacting with their win condition. The amount of time and resources it will take the Corp to mitigate the damage done by this ability text is potentially insurmountable. I'm in genuine awe that any amount of play-testing would allow this ID to survive with the text it currently has. At best, this card is an abberation of design philosophy that somehow escaped correction in testing. At worst it is a warning against once again getting emotionally invested in a game that remains dead.

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Me, as a Jinteki PE player: "Ice? Do you want to swap that Pop-up with that other pop-up window or with that vanilla ice that you can already break? That's fine for me! Now let's get back to the net damage"

My point is that as a Corp player the real challenge for me has been playing against Leela, where I really need an extra clic for scoring stuff unless is the endgame and everything is rezzed.

Am I wrong? No, it's the playtesters who are out of touch. Really though, why not play with the card or watch some games with the card and see how it plays? From what I have seen it is a totally reasonable ability. I think just assuming that it is broken and that you're the only one who has caught it is silly.

lol

Oops.

Who eshered you?

The original playtest version was 'whenever an agenda is scored or stolen, do an Apocalypse', so just be thankful you still have all your ice!

"log into an account I haven't accessed in years"

"log into an account I haven't accessed in years" It's called breaching now btw.

The second iteration of this was - whenever the corporation scores an agenda, add Tao to your score area as an agenda worth 7 points. It was ready to ship until someone picked up it might be egregious thank goodness; playtesters completely missed it could be a problem.

They targeted ice.

The targeted ice. Ice. A group of cards that are willing to sit in the same position for clicks, even turns on end, performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than their rez cost...

First Tāo moved my ice, then...they moved my heart

This id is evidence that NISEI is in the pocket of Big (Rig) Shaper.

Thanks for all the replies, but please be careful as I'm not sure that the server can handle all 5 active Netrunner players commenting in the same day!

As to who eshered me, the truth is that it was a man named Damon Stone. He broke down the defenses to my heart, and I never recovered. This has given me a lot to think about. Maybe I'm being too harsh on old Damon, after all he never designed Tao.

“All 5 active players” especially true given that 2019 worlds was larger than any except FFG’s last worlds

Thanks for this review; I needed salt for the barbecue sauce I’m making, and this more than covered me.

First they came for my deluxe boxes and I did not speak up as I was sick of them. Then they came for my NPE ID's and I did not speak up because I did not play them. Then they came for the traces and I did not speak up because I did not care for the tracers. Then they came for my positional ice and there were no one to speak up for me.

lol, hyperbole much, sasha

someone got salty in their icecream

Delicious

How do I unlike this.

You cannot, Conduit23. No one can.

"This card, on the other hand, abuses a disruptive technique that ANR made prohibitively expensive with good reason"

Yeah, i rembember the days of the oppressive Escher meta

I’m so thankful I left this community when I did.

I think this is the greatest game ever made and I just recently got my brother and two nephews hook on it. We will play together or online but based on the comments on here, the disrespect and some of the design changes. I’m not interested in trying to commit a significant amount of time honing in skills to be competitive in this environment. I’m not into the whole “safe place” mantra that our 2021 culture has but I certainly avoid potentially toxic environments. Thank you for helping me with this decision. Many of you have been very helpful.

*ice

"This card, on the other hand, abuses a disruptive technique that ANR made prohibitively expensive with good reason." I don't think they like ice much. One plus side of focusing on generic ETR and 1-2 net damage ice is that it's pretty much interchangeable, so ice-swapping won't be a problem.

It's been one year and this is still my favorite Netrunner content ever produced.

@I Am Jessica @CooK_ED where did you get this info? Do you have an Inside Man in NISEI?

"It's almost difficult to describe the magnitude of how game breaking this ID is."

After seeing only a small handful games with this ID, this is just laughable.

The downside to this ID, is having to play Shaper.