DONUTS! 2nd Place Atlanta Regional Runner deck

Ive been messing around with some thing similar, as soon as i saw donut i was WIZARDS got a new friend. public simp is the one thing i dont like in your deck, i would rather spend the inf on 1 X donut, 1 X decoy, 3 X hostage, 2 clones and 1 fem.

that way, if you want scorched protection, you hostage the decoy, if you want cash, you grab kati, you want donut, (which you do), so possibly drop one clone for a donut, or one hostage for a donut.

joshua B is a good include to as a 1 of, you might not use him or you could use him when you are ready for a big dig and the corp is too poor to respond bar trash him

I got to play next to you on the top table this weekend for a round before being stomped back down a table and saw this deck in action. I can't tell you how many people would look at your table and say "Dude....is that Donut?" Love the abstract approach you have going on, almost as much as those shades you sported. ;]

Talism: running Decoy is definitely something worth trying. I don't personally feel that Decoy is as strong a solution to tag and bag decks. I know from my experience playing Scorched Earth decks, if I see a runner playing Decoy I will use my SEA Sources to bait them into either spending a lot of money to avoid receiving a tag and opening up a scoring window or to blow their Decoy. Additionally Decoy does nothing to stop Punitive Counterstrikes.

We've been playing around with Donut and Whizzard for a while now (started right after Donut was spoiled, actually). The one piece of the puzzle I feel like you're missing is #Vamp. Donut's biggest strength is just how difficult he makes the post-Vamp recovery process.

Wouldn't Wyldside work really well with Public Sympathy? If so what would one think of dropping here?

I saw this deck in play at the Atlanta Regionals, and I have to say it was awesome to see it at work! Congrats on an incredible deck!

Congrats on getting second place. I like how you show Donut can be played in your decklist but I feel a little bit "iffy" on the use of Public Sympathy when playing against Jinteki where it has Komainu. Getting a hand of more than 5 cards is not good when facing Komainu even when we have sentry breaker. Have to spend a lot to break the subroutine. Have you face problems with this card? How do you get around it?

@brightknight_216 Not to speak for kevingoes, but Komainu is a fantastic Parasite target.

Like the deck but would like to see Djinn.... Thought about -1 Yog and -1 data sucker for +2 Djinn?

brightknight_216: I don't really end up playing Public Sympathy all that often. It's Scorched Earth/Punitive Counterstrike protection. It also has the added benefit of undoing some brain damage if that should happen. Against Jinteki, I just don't play it because of Komainu. (I also kind of don't mind having cards in hand that I can afford to lose. Clone chip is also hugely helpful in that match up. That being said: Komainu gets hit with a parasite hard as soon as I see one. I also dig like a fiend for a Mimic when I'm up against Jinteki.

I played you in round 5 ( I was running CT and HB big ICE). I really like this deck and my give it a go myself. Those shades you were sporting were pretty awesome too XD.

Are 3 Clone Chips really necesarry? Why not go -1 CC +1 Hostage or something?

Because a third chip is actually useful, whereas a third Hostage would be there only to marginally increase odds of drawing one into the opening hand. You literally have nothing to fetch with a third Hostage.

Well, seeing as there's Hostage anyway, why not add some more targets for it? like Raymond Flint (a tutorable expose is nice, and if the corp takes BP and you have Nerve Agent out so help him...) or leave it at 2 Hostages and replace 1 CC with The Source or Mr Lee (seeing as this deck has 0 draw) or Professional Contancts (same reason). Just throwing it out there.

Because that would be diluting the deck's core idea with clutter it doesn't need, which would have to go in at the expense of stuff that is actually beneficial to your primary plan.

Okay, fair enough. But it does seem like piloting this deck requires a lot of manual drawing. Why not -1 CC +2 Quality Time? or even +2 Express Delievery.

Quality Time is an event;)

I don't like Donut Taganes at all. First of all you can't play events yourself anymore. Secondly one credit loss per Operation ist something but not that big of a deal for the corp. How many Operations are played in an average game? Maybe 7 if the game takes long? Maybe less? So you spend one action one card and 3 credits plus the 4 influence to denie 7 credits over the course of the game. Donut can still be trashed;the corp can still click for money and just not use those eco-events. Why not playing account syphon instead? Its a MUCH better option in my opinion.

That said your article becomes even more interesting and your success is quite impressive!

touche, crack. okay, but if the hostage has just two targets, why not -1 hostage, +1 donut, +1 kati -1 something else? hostage is a huge tempo hit

yes hostage makes it even more expensive!

Kroen: you should really read the write up I wrote. I talked about changing the Hostage/Donuts/Kati Jones distribution. The third clone chip could be swapped out for something else. I would probably replace it with a Special Order. Professional Contacts and Mr. Li are both possibilities I've considered. . Cracked: I could swap out the Donut package for two Account Siphons. In a vacuum, on paper, yes Account Siphon is better. However going to two Accounts Siphons decreases my chances of getting the card that I want in my opening hand from approximately 66% to 40% which is a huge difference in consistency.

Sure there are times where Donut doesn't pull his weight but that usually means that my opponent is relying on asset economy and I'm a pretty happy camper.

Yup, donut in whizzard is a tax if they're heavily operation economy, and whizzard himself taxes asset economy, so you're taxing the Corp either way

Cool deck idea. Did you try to put in some Imps to work with Medium?

I love this deck. All hail the donut.

AwakeLand: Indeed I did! I love Imp. It has to be one of my favorite Anarach cards. In the end I had to take it out to include Knight. It wasn't an easy choice for me.

Any chance for an updated version including cards up to (and including) The Source?