Haarpsichord Doomsday

This is some wild stuff, I love it.

This deck just gets wrecked by archives interface.

Just kidding, nice combo. If only there would be something to make it consistent enough?

This deck just gets wrecked by Turntable.

And THAT is a card that sees play. But I love the idea.

@mcpbaThe nice thing about the combo is that it's just three cards, each of which is a player in the deck, so it's actually reasonably consistent. Also, if the deck can't go off for some reason, you still have a perfectly good astrotrain plan which works fine. @anr_marsellusi think the solution to Turntable might be Old Hollywood Grid or whatever it's called - the one that stops the runner from stealing agendas unless they already have one of them. You can also sometimes survive without Hades Fragment for a turn by use of Jackson.

A couple of changes to be made:
- 1 Project Beale, +1 Explode-a-Palooza
- 1 Subliminal Messaging +1 Psychographics

This gives you a stronger follow up if the runner takes 3 tags from Archives. You can actually keep one Jackson in your deck when you combo if the runner doesn't have interaction: do the first Diagnostics as normal, then Interns + Shipment + Shipment Hades Fragment for the second and use your last click to advance once more and score. You also still have a Diagnostics in hand here, allowing you to get back Jackson and combo again next turn. If the runner has 3+ tags you can win with Interns + double Psychographics for a six counter Beale, advancing last clock to 7 for 4 points. If they didn't run, you can return Astronomy and Shipment it with a spare operation for emergencies, meaning you have a scored Astro ready to return another 3/2 next turn.

If the runner has run but removed the tags, you can still win if you have 13 more credits than them- Interns for Beale, Midseasons for six tags, Psychographics into one more advancement for 4 points.

If the runner has Clot or Hades Shard you still need to be careful. Clot makes you use all three Jacksons to add in a Cyberdex like in the description. Hades Shard is odd depending on when they use it- if they pop it as soon as you Shutdown, you can sometimes get them with Psychographics, particularly if they don't steal Hades Fragment

Also, against Noise: you probably just lose. If he doesn't have any way of interacting with you (no Clone Chip or Street Peddler, no Hades Shard, no Turntable) you can probably just combo off for Hades and go from there.

Film Critic only hosts one agenda. They can get two agendas in a single turn with it, but then they aren't removing the tags which means you can Psychographics combo afterwards and/or trash the Film Critic.

Film Critic does stop TGTBT and Explode-A-Palooza. And Fetal AI, and The Future Perfect, and so many other agendas.

"On access" effects trigger, but it's the Runner's turn and they have priority; their "on access" effects occur first if they so desire. There's no stack in Netrunner, so once an agenda is hosted on FC -- which the Runner will presumably decide to have trigger first -- that agenda's "on access" ability no longer happens because the agenda is not being accessed.

Film Critic allows the Runner to go faster while also shutting off both your tag plan and Midseasons, so you're basically down to Biotic + Cyberdex to win, which if you have to recur Cyberdex whenever you want to score is going to take you 2 turns per agenda.

So I think an alternative plan will be needed if Film Critic is popular.

@Ajar Is it confirmed to work that way? I assumed TGTBT happens when accessed, but Film Critic happens when you are accessing - like the difference between When The Runner Encounters [x] and Ice You Are Currently Encountering (specifically why you can't parasucker instant kill a Data Raven without taking the tag).

Someone get Lukas. :P

We don't have an official ruling, no, but the spoiled wording is different from Imp. With Imp, you have to let "when accessed" effects fire, same as encounter abilities on Ice with Datasucker.

The spoiled wording of Film Critic is "when you access an agenda," so if that's right, then it's an access trigger, same as Femme for encountering ice.

It gets weirder. Film Critic says it can only host one agenda. If you access a second agenda and let FC fire again, what happens to the one that was on there already? We don't have confirmation, but the most obvious answer is that it goes into Archives and gets replaced by the new agenda.

If that's correct, then a Runner with FC can run Archives against this deck and cycle through all of the agendas in Archives, ignoring the access triggers and keeping whatever agenda they chose to access last on the Film Critic. This allows them to steal one agenda per turn without taking any TGBT tags or giving the Corp Explode-A-Palooza money.

I don't think you can put a second agenda on Film Critic if it already has one. It's difficult to tell because there isn't much precedent for cards which host, but the hosted card can't be trashed as standard when you install like programs or assets/ice/agendas/upgrades (no need for a ruling on how Dinosaurus hosts, for example). The closest thing I can find is Glenn Station. I don't think Glenn Station lets you host another card if there is already one on there, but there isn't a ruling.

You cannot put a second agenda on Film Critic. Cards you can trash by installing over them (programs and ICE) are mentioned in the rules. Since Film Critic allows to host only one, you cannot basically use it again once something is already hosted on it.

Anyway, this idea for a deck is pretty hilarious, I love it. Too bad you basically have to be ahead to pull off the combo :) Still, love the idea.

Much of the discussion here about Film Critic is wrong. Film Critic is a 'When Access' effect and therefore triggers before the Corp's 'When Access' effects.

As for tbe interacion, let us say nothing has been stolen. The runner goes into archives. The runner wants to go for the astros, so one gets stolen and the other goes on Film Critic. So the credits and thee tags happen. The runner clears the tags. Next turn the runner grabs the other astro and prepares to run again. They even can run, score and host on film critic, if they want to stop a fast advance by getting rid of the last 3/2s. You'll loose the film critic though, but who cares? It's all over next turn, if the runner can get into archives.

Things might not happen exactly like that, but film critic is big against this deck.

If the runner hosts on Film Critic turn clears three tags, you just got a 21 credit swing. Should be able to just Midseason and trash Film Critic.

@lajcik you don't actually have to be ahead. You can combo out off of 9 credits and a single Jackson + Shutdown + Diagnostics. The only time you have to worry about needing more than that is if the Runner has one of a few specific effects:

Film Critic makes it significantly more important that the Runner hasn't stolen anything already

Hades Shard is a little awkward if they take Hades Fragment with it. You're fine if they take anything else. If they also stole last turn, you can just win the turn they use it off of Midseasons + Psychographics if you start on ~12 credits.

Clot means you have to use all three Diagnostics rather than save one, and spend 3c extra to rez Cyberdex.

Laramy Fisk / Investment Seminar: you lose. Try to combo to win immediately.

The Source / Chakana: You can score Hades through Source, it just costs you all three Jacksons. Chakana is the same as Clot, just purge immediately before scoring.

@lsvan If the corp uses a turn to Midseason and trash FC that's another turn they aren't scoring agendas. Go in, on the runners turn, now the score is 4-3. (Better hope the runner doesn't have another FC in hand, or some Fall Guys.)

Anyway, in your senario: The Corp must now:

1: get a fast advance tool. Psychographics is probably best then the runner steals the second astro; score is 3-4

2: fetch and score a Beale; win

ok that sounds good. The runner is in trouble then.

How about

1r: The runner goes into archives, steals a beale, and hosts another on FC, then adds it to their score area.

1c: The corp trashes FC and fetches a reclamation order and gets their astros out of archives.

2r: The runner steals an exploda palooza from archives

2c: The corp fast advances an astro

3r: the runner goes into archives and wins

I don't see a winning sequence for the corp there.

@Lowsow If the Runner has Film Critic, you can do:

Corp turn:
Jackson, Shutdown, Diagnostics:
Biotic, Reclamation (Diagnostics), Interns (Jackson)
Jackson, Diagnostics:
Interns (Hades), Shipment, Shipment
Last click advance Hades, score.

This leaves you with an Accelerated Diagnostics in hand and a Jackson in the bin, which means next turn you can Jackson/Diagnostics for a scored Astro (if the Runner cleared the tags).
If the runner kept tags, you can combo instead for Interns / Psychographics / Psychographics for a six-advance Beale, advance it once more for your last click and score it to win straight up.
If you're worried about a backup Film Critic and the Runner cleared tags, you can instead just get back Midseasons (leaving Jackson in the bin for now), play it and trash Film Critic. This means that next turn you can Jackson for 2 Psychographics and an Interns for that Beale, since you gave the runner all those tags last turn.

The worrying thing is if you have to play around both Clot and Film Critic. That's where the problem comes up because you have to use all three Jacksons to get the Hades scored to start with, which makes things significantly more awkward.

I can't wait to play this tomorrow :D

They can put every agenda in Archives onto it, but you still gain credits and give them tags,

One comment here, you won't get them from the single agenda they put onto film critic, just the other ones.

Remove the 3rd SfSS (you only need 2) and put an Old Hollywood Grid instead so you can put it on your archive ;). The runner need to run twice to steal any agendas so you hit with 6 tags and get 20 creds instead. If the runner doesn't remove the tag, it means you can directly psychographic out with it :)

I was running three Shipments to help with any problems from getting one stuck in your hand, or to make the win a little faster (with triple Shipment, you can score Beale for 5 to win if you have an Astro already) , but it's probably more useful to have a Grid.

@Calimsha I disagree, having three shipments allowed me to win a game yesterday by scoring a 5/9 Beale with Diagnostics against a player running HyperDrive/Notoriety deck (which allowed them to score 5 points in one turn).

Generally running three shipments gives you more flexibility if your Hades Fragment gets stolen or you are otherwise unable to fire your combo.

Anyway, I had tremendous fun playing this deck yesterday, One game I had trouble was when Noise topdecked my Hades Fragment first turn. I kinda lost my groove and made some mistakes racing him. I think the flexibility and low cost of the Diagnostics combo is a huge factor in why this deck works so well. Great job!

I think I'd replace Draco with Gutenberg for extra oomph :)

@lajcik I've actually been thinking about changing up the ice suite, maybe also dropping the Anonymous Tips. The setup I was looking at is something like:

2 Wraparound
2 Wall of Static
2 Pop-up Window
2 Quandary
2 Data Raven

Gutenberg is fine too but I think Data Raven is more effective at keeping people out.

Yeah, but the problem with Data Raven is that it's pretty expensive and the runner can still decide to go YOLO-mode.

I haven't had a chance to play against any Siphon-Spam decks yesterday but I think those would have a pretty good chance of beating this deck into the ground before it goes off.

I finally remembered to publish my own version of this deck. Thanks for the inspiration, I had (and have) a blast playing this. :)