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This deck is being beta tested and I am looking for feedback.
This deck may appear to your opponents as a classic NEXT Design deck; lots of ice to stop you. What they may not realize is just how dangerous this particular mixture can be. ICE like Janus are generally just outrageously expensive for any deck, but when your opponent runs into a Whirlpool, which sends them into a Howler? If they don't have a Killer they may as well just clean up.
Another fun fact about Howler is it doesn't get trashed until the end of the run, so stick if they are whirlpooled feel free to stick a Cell Portal behind it and then stick something else behind it on their second pass.
Minelayer works well with Cell Portal as well, and Amazon Industrial and Akitaro Watanabe are there to mitigate cost. I recommend using ICE like Guard and Rototurret on central servers and leave your remotes to the multiple ICE shenanigans.
You may find yourself using Reclamation Order to get back your Econ cards, but hopefully it won't be too taxing to run as a lot of my cards will lower or get around costs completely. Adonis and Eve Campaigns are there in addition to Hedge Funds. I would actually like to get a third of each of the campaigns in the deck, in case I decide to replay them with Reclamation Order.
Let me know what you guys think, as this all came directly from my head and I am looking to make this even better. Also let me know if you have suggestions for a new name.
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11 May 2014
Baotus
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11 May 2014
Baotus
Oops, I didn't realize that Amazon is only one pip, so that makes adding 2 Jacksons and a CP impossible without cutting Akitaro. Anyway, I made a quick suggested revision for you. A lot of differences but the same basic idea: netrunnerdb.com |
11 May 2014
Cancer Ace
Thanks for your feedback! I like a lot of what you suggested, and yes I also caught that I misread Howler. Still, using it to force them into a free Janus with Whirlpool provides promise. I'm taking a look at your list as well and liking a lot of the suggestions. |
I think you're implying that Howler works with Cell Portal — it doesn't; only Bioroids. To fire the full combo you'd need Whirlpool — Howler — Cell Portal already installed.
Amazon doesn't work well specifically for the combo — you wouldn't want to show them your Cell Portal before you use it. You could conceivably recoup its cost quite fast during standard play (at the expense of helping the runner by sticking price tags on your servers), but I don't think it makes sense in this deck. It might work better to spend the influence on another CP and two Jacksons. Jackson Howard might help you hide your combo pieces — a savvy runner will smell the combo if they get a lot of ICE accesses off R&D and HQ before you're ready. With JH you can also draw a lot and dump your big Bioroids where they're ready for Howler — the advertisement economy works well with that approach also.
Reclamation Order helps Minelayer a bit, but I wouldn't want to reveal any Cell Portals or Whirlpools during that operation — and Howler works on Bioroids in Archives already. I don't think it plays a role in this deck unless you were planning to fish the advertisements back — but going +1 Adonis would be better with one of those slots if so. Consider swapping it for a money card — Restructure, Green Level Clearance, or Subliminal Messaging.
The Cell Portal combo is tough to pull off, but this seems like a decent shot at it. If you are going to make the combo work more than once or twice in casual games, your ability to hide the combo pieces seems like it will be just as important as assembling them in the right order, as far as your strategy goes. That might actually be the best advice I can offer.