TheBigBoy's Minnesota Magnum Maxx

I still have one EMP device in mine so as another mean thing to do on a heavily stacked HQ or remote

Yes EMP device is very good. Cutting 1 of the Scrubbers for it is certainly an option.

How's the PU Match Up?

I have done fine. Use good anti-mill fundamentals. Levy early, try to close the game faster than usual. Check all unadvanced remotes. Vamp is great against them. They have Lockdown so that's tricky, but if you play smart it seems like an even matchup. On the flip, the PU players I've played against have said from their perspective it felt hopeless, so maybe it's even better than I think.

until Scorpios comes out

That's in 4 days.

You can actually beat Scorp. I need to test it more and do a more extensive write-up, but basically you go -2 inject -1 scrubber +1 eater +2 keyhole. Use the fact that their ID is once a turn to frantic coding way more things than they can remove and keyhole them to death.

It's likely there is a skorp deck that dominates this, but I doubt it has a shot against any other competitive deck.

I'm playing against this deck right now and losing. MWL Opus plz.

I love that this is a MaxX deck that's using Frantic Coding. Fuck cards. Just fuck em.

I almost wish there was a way to get a Rebirth in here. @grogboxer was running a MaxX deck for a while that could change into Whizzard if needed against spam decks, once the rig got going. What with the ICE destruction and the R&D hammer, it's probably not needed, though. By the time you'd usually change to Whizzard, you're probably more interested in ending the game.

Except we're not playing Netrunner. We're playing FCK YOU, MOTHER FCKER RUNNER! ;)

Shaper clicking MOpus, Vamping, remote locking = NPE, dull, boring, ruining the game

Anarch clicking MOpus, Vamping, remote locking = cool! Fun! Dynamic! 'Ruining the game' LOL jk jk gg wp no re

I think my PU could handle this. When you Frantic Code your Levy I'll Ark it. If I see a second one I'll have your Clippy too. Don't care if you Scrub my Shocks and Snares, I will Preemptively bring them back. Attacking Same Olds is the Best form of Defence. Eater Vamp? That's when I reach for my Chiyashi. It'll be over in 6 turns.

Skorpio will be a fun matchup, maybe slithly favored toward Skorpio... ?... But this deck crushes everything else. I've been playing a very similar version with Whizzard instead and MAXX. This one looks faster and better, although probably takes much more skills to play correctly. Well done TBB. Also most people have already forgotten that Rumor Mill exists.

My version of this deck already plays the extra Eater and Keyhole because I am not as confident or skillful as Abram. I've found it very resilient and quite powerful. My luck with getting Opus down turn one is not quite a good as Abram's, but Frantic, Maxx, Inject, and I've Had Worse can dig pretty deep pretty fast.

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I love it! I was playing around with Maxx running rumour mill, cutlery, and conspiracy breakers, but I couldn't get the economy to work. Magnum opus + frantic coding is the perfect solution. Any thought to dropping down to 1 rumour mill and squeezing in some parasites?

Parasites are incorrect for this deck.

Haven't felt that you need the Archives interface at all?

Thanks for posting this deck, it looks great. Just some thoughts but have you considered maybe subbing the grimoires for box-Es? The bigger hand would be useful with all the events in the deck plus you could hold 7 cards against boom decks. I guess that would involve dropping a rumor mill though or switching to some other cards such as employee strike, a shard or maybe turning wheel.

"this deck can eat a dick"

-bahram 2017

:P dont spread this nonsense abram, come on now

Welp, it was fun to play glacier for a week. Guess it's time to go back to NBN kill. sigh

Good news is that Retrun and Keyhole rotate.

Box-e not needed. Take eight.

Deck used to be one mill and a gordian because of all the expensive gates. Before that it was femme and David. That would give you strike and mill.

Some thoughts after playing a list that, while fairly different, definitely has a lot of similarities:

Only 1x BO / Paperclip (and MK, to a lesser extent); fighting against anti-rush seems a little chance-based. Have you had any issues actually getting setup vs. rush?

Any thoughts on the meat kill match-ups? A fast 24/7 Boom list seems like it would be able to kill this. I'd make room for a Plascrete I think.

With the amount of self-mill in here, has Ark Lockdown never been an issue? Counter current to axe the existing RM + Ark Lockdown to hit it + the other in the heap seems like it opens the door again for Palana Caprice BS.

I think the list is almost certainly strong. But, even neglecting TD's release, I think it'll be a matter of a week or so before everyone realizes this list is still strong, and puts Caprice back in the binder.

I don't have issues with rush. I can either vamp them or crack their remote before they score more than 1 agenda. If often Frantic Coding just to mill my breakers vs rush.

24/7 is good vs this. Slot plas if you care. I'm not concerned about that deck since it can never beat Aaron Criminal realistically which is the #1 most obvious thing to play in the new meta.

Ark Lockdown has been annoying but I've yet to lose to it. If you can make a Caprice deck with room for enough currents and lockdowns to consistantly get off the line you discussed, it probably made such huge sacrifices in other areas that it can't compete with the most common strong decks (Andy and Indexing-Dash Shaper).

I don't worry about beating corner case decks that can't beat anything but me.

I brought up 24/7 Boom because at an event last weekend someone did 24/7 Boom me, and I had no decent answer to it. It wasn't a formal event, so not a big deal, but it had me curious if the archetype was more in the meta than I thought.

I'm unsure Ark Lockdown is a massive sacrifice for Jinteki Caprice decks. Slotting 2 AL and 2 currents in a Caprice deck in order to answer RM Anarch lists (which seems like it would be the decks greatest weakness between that and the other decks you've mentioned) doesn't seem incredibly taxing. 4 influence and 4 deck slots is a sacrifice, no doubt, but I don't think it's so great that I wouldn't be able to function against other good lists (not to mention the cards aren't inherently bad against other lists: AL is functional against Shaper bullshit, and potentially hitting criminals 1x clip; the current could be something like scarcity to tax Aaron/Temujin).

By all means build it.

I still a bit nervous with this deck but it's so fun to play ! Thanks.

Not nervous, excited.

Haha this is a blast to play. The 0 - 0 concessions are real. I've played one match-up vs Skorpio where MaxX milled paperclip turn one and BO turn two, after which my opponent installed and triple-advanced Hortum on RnD and HQ. I lost that one :P Great deck.

@TugtetguTI'm surprised you had fun because you clearly did not have much fun when I played Maxx against you and took 8 each turn.

@Frogblast The other side of the table eh. Feel to take your swings at me though, but maybe find a more appropriate forum :-)

No, this is good. I'm enjoying it more than reading the decklist.

Since the Genesis and Spin cycles will be rotating out soon, does anyone have plans for eater decks that don't use cards from these cycles? As good as vamp and keyhole are, they will soon have to be substituted. Obviously the Anarch big box includes eater support cards and there's also account siphon but I'm interested to know what else is in the card pool.

We don't know enough about what rotation will do to theorize at all. For all we know they are reprinting cards like MtG does or. For all we know the first pack of the first new cycle will have 4 3/2s in it. There is no way to say.

Fair enough. One thing I will predict though is that anarchs won't get another credit denial card as powerful as vamp - the direction of travel seems to be more minor effects such as lamprey or diwan.

Hey BigBoy thanks again for posting this - I have used this as a template for my own Maxx eater deck but I changed a few cards. I mainly added some more ice destruction plus extra copies of eater and keyhole and I dropped a rumor mill to switch Grimoire to Box-E. I also switched a scrubber for Bhagat. I find deck building tricky but guys like you provide inspiration.

Played against this with my Skorp deck and the runner conceded. Although Skorp has weakened Anarch considerably I think in this match up I was never really comfortable (even though you would think this would be a very one-sided match in my favour). There are so many ways to get around Corp shinanigans here. A very formidable deck!

@spags "this is the best runner deck in the Game"

how about Maw? 3 more creds but does more work than grimoire and gives you another angle of attack

Maw does not really do much for you in this deck. It does not trigger when you use Keyhole, which is the big draw back.

but grimoire doesn't trigger when you use anything in this deck

Right. Grimoire is the shortest line to +2 memory, which the deck needs to pull off its game plan. Maw will not trigger either if you are doing what the deck is designed to do.

So what changes are people making for Scorp?

I beat Skorp with this yesterday unchanged. You have so many outs and Skorpios is bleeding agendas trying to turn them off. I ended up losing all 3 Magnum opus and having to click for credits to get the Vamp off, but it still worked fine.

Why eater is very important ? Without keyhole , spooned , foorked and knifed eater can do nothing ? Right? ( sorry for my english...)

Vamp is a huge part of this deck and Eater works with that too.

On a lesser note, eater is useful for face-checking spiky ice.

The deck also has wanton destruction as a last ditch use of eater.

@kotx64k

Keyhole and Vamp does not access cards so Eater's downside does not matter.

You can break any ice on R&D with Eater and Keyhole will still work because it does not access cards.

Knifed, Spooned, and Forked work too because all they need is Eater to break ice subroutines.

@triorph et nungunz : thanks