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Australian and New Zealand Async. Competition | #1 of 82 | triorph |
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Mooninites | 55 | 36 | 17 |
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HB sucks pass it on (1st, Toronto Regionals 22/07/17) | 17 | 8 | 5 |
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This deck was what I piloted in the cut to first place of the ANZ Asynchronous Competition. Some information about ANZAC is below the deck information that follows.
The deck history
This deck was an exercise in listening to really good players and taking their advice on how to build the deck. The first 2 good players were Jonas Wilson (@thebigunit3000) and Abram Jopp (@thebigboy). Both are solidly good players who have a strong reputation for building good decks. Jonas' most notable deck was probably the DLR Val that won World's in 2015, and Abram's most notable deck was probably Dumblefork that stormed the entire meta the year after.
So this deck starts because quite a while ago now, Abram creates a deck called "Sleeper Hold" which he claims is actually quite decent. Months later I spend a bit of time familiarising myself with the deck and finding it reasonably fun to play.
Then about a month ago, Terminal Directive comes out and there's this card that I don't even think is that good called "Estelle Moon". Boy was I wrong, and great player Jonas shows us immediately that its amazing by creating the Mooninites Deck. I like this deck but I'm struggling to play it well.
Next minute, yet another good player comes along. Dan D'argenio (@mediohxcore), 2 time world's champion comes into slack and starts berating the moon deck, saying its a mess of bad cards such as Cybernetics Court, Shipment from Mirrormorph and Successful Field Test. At first I ignore him, surely he just hasn't tried the deck - but then I figure its worth actually listening to him. Dan definitely has strong ideas and he's not always right, but he is an incredible player and his thoughts should at least be considered. Doing so, I think about what a deck without any of the above cards would look like, and I lean back towards the Sleeper Hold Shell. SSCG, Jeeves, TS, AAL, etc.. This is the version I won the first few rounds of Swiss with. Also being based on sleeper hold, I swap Eli for Vanilla and in testing soon realise how much better this is in such a deck. Stopping accesses early is far more important for a tempo deck than providing a late game tax.
The next good player I listen to is current world champion Chris Dyer (@nemamiah). He publishes his own Moon list (I have since been informed that this was mostly designed by @tclifford and I think @lpoulter) which was near tuned perfection. Turtlebacks and Tech Startups and DBS just work in the deck. I also started finding that the SSCG really wasn't that good, usually just being a more expensive Biotic Labor. Considering I was only on 2x Biotic Labor, moving up to 3 was easy and gives us no trouble. I took inspiration from Chris Dyer's list over and over, and the more I tested the more it moved towards being his list.
Some thoughts on the card choices here:
Australia and New Zealand Asynchronous Competition
The ANZAC was a slow rolling online competition between 80 players across the world, predominantly from Australia and New Zealand. It was played entirely on Jinteki.net, and unlike most tournaments, deck lists were not fixed from the start.
That does mean that this deck was not what I took in Swiss rounds to make the top 8.
Cards up to Station One Legal:
Cards up to Terminal Directive Legal:
For the cut, the deck was locked in, and is what is described here. Cards up to Earth's Scion were legal.
Recorded videos from the cut should be uploaded shortly.
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15 Jul 2017
Guv_bubbs
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23 Jul 2017
AberDamo4
So ``@triorph`, there's an interesting question to be asked here. Rotation isn't a million miles away any more, and this deck only loses two things: Jackson Howard and Project Vitruvius. Are there any serviceable replacements, do you think? I'd hate to see this deck die - I love it too much! |
23 Jul 2017
triorph
Losing Jackson is of course a huge deal. He does a lot in this deck, absolutely saving you in games where you get a bad flood, or just giving you more draw when you need it. In a post-rotation environment this is most likely to be the deal-breaker, however almost every corp deck needs Jackson and its likely that every other deck will be hit as hard as a result. So as far as corp power level goes, this might still be the best. You can probably put in preemptive action, as the general tempo level of the deck allows ice on archives to be more impactful, and a lot of the time you're only using Jackson to bring back your Friends in High Places and Biotic Labors and other cards. Lastly, an answer to the question you didn't ask, which is how does this survive the MWL? Nobody knows what's going to be in the MWL so that's a bit harder to answer, however it seems likely that Friends in High Places will be on at tier 3, and that Moon will be on at 1. If this is the case, the deck probably doesn't have enough influence to spare to be competitive, as you're starting to have to drop Architects which are very important to the game plan. I think if just Friends in High Places is Tier3 and Estelle moon is untouched, then this deck is mildly weaker but still competitive. You swap the 3rd Friends for an Archived Memories and then the deck is just down 6 influence. Note the deck already has 1 influence spare, so we only have to find 5 to cut. 3x Turtlebacks can be swapped for some other Economy option in a pinch (Marilyn campaign seems popular, but Pad is probably good too). Leaving just 2 to go. Some combination of Jackson/Architect/3rd GFI is probably the way to go for that last 2. Worth noting, that in the above scenario, the loss of Jackson Howard here actually helps with the influence. While I would not suggest cutting Jackson entirely while he still exists as a card, if everyone is comparatively nerfed by missing out on Jackson, then the 3 influence is a big deal in this deck. |
Great write up