Bag of Tricks - 2nd Oslo Regionals, Undefeated 8-0, top seed

I've also been trying out some new ideas in PE (having played Cambridge alot a while back) and the inclusion of Chairman Hiro and Tori Hanzō alone makes me want to give this a go.

I hope you bring this deck to Nordics and I get to face it.

I will most definitely bring this to Nordics, but may very well change up some of my tricks, them being published and all ;)

If you are the right type of player, i think this should work out for you. Let me know how it goes, kind of exciting to see others getting this to work as well. Let's build a new era of PE dominance!

Looks like an interesting list, will definitely be giving it a go

Actually i did play one strogn player with a MaxX Eater-Keyhole deck, and pulled a miraculous win due to his bad draw and probably him being a careful player as well. He is one of my regular opponents, so that might have helped.

Definitely sand-box. You play what you are dealt, but discard what you don't want for your mushin targets. Agendas can be freely discarded, there are few of them, so jackson is usually enough to allow some agressive draw when needed. Sometimes you even want to feed the runner agendas for punitive.

I love to see Blacktree do well. How do you feel about this deck's performance the more we delve in the SanSan Cycle? Are cards like Drive By a major concern for you?

Definitely a fun deck. I have a PE player in my area who is discouraged at the moment, from all of the shell game hate that exists in the game. I'm going to show this to him in hopes that he will get a few ideas from it. Hiro Represent!

That depends wholly on how many people slot it into their decks ;)

Seriously, everything is a meta call. All cards that directly nullify advanced remotes is a major concern. Singularity as well. You have an advantage against a deckthat plays one/two of one of those cards: don't waste time on traps. They won't run them if they know they have a solution in their deck.

i sense economy problems with just 6 cards making credits. mushin is good but cant pay for snare, so dont count it. no need for gila or more eco cards?

Gila is a large investment (1 draw, 1 install, 3 cred, 3 click = 6 cred) to make your money back you need to use it 8 times (16 clicks). Just click for credits, it is faster and more flexible. One problem with 1-pointers is that they are a huge money-sink for your already tight economy.

@Elusive your math is wrong.

To score = 1 draw, 1 install, 3 to adv, 3 to adv = 8 to gain 8 Gila ability = 3 , so you need to use it 3 times to gain 9

@Linger C'mon bro! Together we can math better than that.

You got the first part right. 8 to score Gila hands.

Then every time you use its ability, you gain 3 instead of 2 :

3 - 2 = = .

Dividing our 8 investment by the saved each time we use it:

8 / = 8.

8 activations to break even.

Man, I'm sure there is a lot to be gained by this 'classic' netrunner math. hilarious. Gila does so much more for your economy than taking 8 activations to break even.

What Gila in PE (Cambridge variants) does is give me a way to get money fast from 0 : Gila + click for = your up to Snare! range again in one turn.

Having a way to get that money without the need for an event/asset is extremely useful, and one I find worth the investment (along with the net damage). It does not suit all PE decks of course, and I'm not sure what I would remove to make room for it here.

kollapse: I completely agree, and it is a good fit in horizontal 1-pointer decks. Here i feel it would be OK but additional 1-pointers create other tough choices. I usually click for credits a lot, especially when i'm getting a trap set up nicely.

@Elusive Clicking for credits in PE is, more often than not, a more or less viable strategy when no economy shows up.

@Elusive Hi,I'm new to Jinteki and your deck sure looks interesting. One question, what do you think about Trick of Light? if the runner already know that our trap is not an agenda won't it be nice if we can use ToL to move the counter to another place? Please enlighten me.

Hey,

The runner never knows. The thing with an advanced card that the runner thinks is a trap is that that is your greatest asset. Given, it could be a trap, but if you manage to trick them that your agenda or Ronin is a trap you gain a lot by leaving it out there! Ronin is obvious, but an agenda ready to be scored lets you get 1 extra net-damage when you need it for the kill, which is great! A 3-advanced TFP left out will give you the victory if you manage to score another one later. Once the runner knows you do this, all advanced cards suddenly become even more menacing. Your traps might be the last thing he sees after starting to panic when you get 3-4 advanced cards out. If he doesn't know, you have the advantage of using the above tools to kill him.

To answer your question, i think it is a playstyle-choice. I feel like i rather put the fear into them and let them simmer than try to fast-advance to a point victory. If your bluffs are good you should not need to fast-advance. Feel free to try it though.

Oh, i remember winning a game after scoring a TFP that i had been using as 'protection' for 2 shell-corporations the whole game. The look on their face.. ;)

I think this deck will have economy issues - light on economy and high on cards you want to advance. I can see the concept behind it - if you play all the possible flatline combinations then the runner isn't sure which one they need to avoid most urgently. Ultimately though I think you're spread way too thin trying to play this way and as soon as you hit a runner who comes knocking for you to spend money (Siphon, Vamp, Lamprey, Reina) you're going to fold up. This is especially true as many of your kills are greedy for credits, like Punitive, Snare and Tori, or need to be advanced.

I agree on some points, and i acknowledge that this deck is completely devastated by the account-siphon/keyhole combo. However, only account siphon is not a major deal. Not being able to rez ice isn't really either. In addition if short on credits you simply choose not to pursue high-cred tactics like Tori or punitives, and start relying on leaving advanced agendas out, Ronin and Neural.

The reason i stopped playing this deck for a long while was the prominence of these tactics. It did however turn out to be a great meta-call when facing shapers and few criminals, as shown by it's performance.

One reason i posted this was to get some ideas from other players on how to make this deck more resistant to siphon/lamprey as it is extremely efficient if the opponent cannot nullify your bluffing game by denial. Feel free to propose ideas.

@Elusive I've got it sleeved up for a few games tonight. The change I made was to drop the relatively expensive Punitive kill for a slightly different route: 2x Cerebral Cast and a Scorched Earth (-1 Tori Hanzo, -2 Punitive). I don't know if it's better or worse at killing, but it's at least cheaper and maybe slightly more flexible

Cerebral Cast can give the runner a tough choice, especially if they've got a critical resource to trash, like a stacked Kati or Pro Contacts. That's even without the implied threat you're holding Scorched and often runners will choose the Brain damage, which helps your other plays. Meanwhile Scorched sits behind the Snare!/Kitsune threat, maybe. It's janky, but at least it's jank you can afford.

I've also put two Errand Boy in, dropping an Eli and the Crisium Grid if I remember rightly.

I run a very similar Tennin deck that actually has less protection and more forced damage (hokusei, data mines, etc.). Glad to see some risky kill decks out there making waves!

@Satellite Uplink: I'm curious to see how it went for you. I actually had the cerebral/scorch combo in the deck for some time in the beginning. It doesn't really help me kill reliably i felt, and drawing that single scorch is a pain. I want to try out switching Tori however, i have a few ideas..

@funnyways3: Glad to hear ;) Aren't those 1-net pings on the runner's turn difficult to use as kill-tools? Maybe you use them for deterrence?

The thing I've always enjoyed about the kill decks is that poking a little is just as dangerous as one big strike. That's one extra click to draw, one few card to prevent from a double neural or a Kitsune into a Snare. Add a House of Knives and suddenly that's two damage you're doing. I've never killed with Data Mine or Hokusei, but those two have set up more kills than just about any other card in my deck. I've found to many kill decks go for the one hit wonder, but I've gotten so much control with the little jabs here and there. But, your deck went undefeated. Don't fix it if it ain't broken :) It's a good, scary deck and I like it!