Data Looping Death

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pinkj 154

I'm surprised no one has posted a PE/Data Loop/Obokata deck yet since this works amazingly well.

Obokata is a fantastic scoring agenda and a decent flatlining agenda. It's a scoring agenda first because the runner is reluctant to steal to potentially get Neural EMPed to death. So that Mushined Obokata is ripe for scoring.

Data Loop, Kaguto, Prisec, and House of Knives strengthens the likelihood of scored Obokatas incredibly since the runner, without protecting from net dmg, would need 10 cards in hand!

Lockdown makes a surprise appearance with it's awesome 0 rez 5 Str to nail the runner with those NEMPs after they dare steal that Obo without breaking. Swordsman and Chiyashi are in for AI hate.

There's a lot of econ events to fend off Siphons and to be able to rez the expensive ice, fire Snares!, NEMPs and Prisecs. Even Gila is thrown in to give you a fighting chance to play those Medical Research Fundraisers.

The weakest matchups are obviously runners running anything to get their hand size up. Enforced Curfew might be a decent current to fit in this deck. But if they get low on cards in hand, Mushin/Obokata your way to wins.

7 comments
3 Aug 2017 pinkj

Oh and Hunting Grounds would be a problem, but I haven't seen anyone play that in months.

5 Aug 2017 zmb

No traps besides snares? So when you mushin things out the runner knows it's an agenda. What's keeping the runner from just drawing up and using film critic/stealing the agendas?

5 Aug 2017 pinkj

The runner doesn't know mushins are only agendas unless you specifically tell them. I guess that's one of the possible downsides of publishing decks. :P

Film Critic is an issue, yes, that's why MCA is in the deck.

Playing PE, the corp needs to spot the scoring windows by bluffing and playing shell games as well as good ice placement. There's no free lunch here unfortunately! :)

5 Aug 2017 Saan

The runner doesn't know mushins are only agendas unless you specifically tell them.

Or you play them more than once in your life =P They know then too.

5 Aug 2017 zmb

You can scare runners by playing naked remotes being jinteki and all, but it won't take long for the runner to figure out you have one ambush assets like ronins, junebugs or cerebrals

5 Aug 2017 pinkj

If one feels safer having Junebugs or Ronins slotted in, that's fine, but flatlining the runner isn't the purpose of this deck. It's the threat that opens a window for corp to score. I did try Junebug with Back Channels as a threat/econ engine, but it's too slow. A wasted Mushined Junebug will usually only sit there, negating corp's turn to really do something instead of just threatening to do something with little pay off. A Mushined Obokata behind one or two Data Loops is easily scored on the corp's next turn if the runner can't safely steal it. If the corp scores two Obos and then shell games Snares and HoKs/Gila/Phitolic, the corp usually wins.

While classic PE is to flatline the runner, that style of play doesn't work much anymore to wiser players who can easily out play the net damage. Obokata changes all that by still threatening the flatlines while also being able to score 5/3 agendas in the early to mid game. Data Loop and Kakugo strengthens that scoring ability. Film Critic is the main counter to this style of play and that's where MCA, Prisec and Snare! comes in with possible tags to trash her.

6 Aug 2017 cynchwyrm

Flatline PE is by no means dead or simple to play around as you suggest (see the deck I published right after yours). However, I agree with you that assuming runner's perfect knowledge of your deck and "wouldn't they just do x?" is just silly. Nobody has perfect knowledge, and Jinteki has plenty of built-in threat to pull off what you propose. That said, late game a runner is eventually going to get wise and start acting bolder when they never see any traps on central access. Trashing one Junebug or Cerebral is enough for runners to start thinking hard before running an advanced card.