no dinos, no fear

wow, amazing deck, really like it

thinking on -1 femme +1 stimhack

Test Run is strictly worse than SMC for what you're trying to do. Also, you need more instant econ - as it is, you'll take forever (both in terms of money and clicks) to get rolling, and against a moderately competent corp the siphon you'll get off will be too little, too late.

Also, your runs will cost horrendous amounts of money once any mid-game ICE gets rezzed. Hell, just running through an Eli for 5 credits is a nightmare, now imagine there're two of them. You definitely should be packing some answers to those problems.

test run is better, because if my rig is almost full, then i can still use test run, but cant use smc. femme from test run costs me 3 credits not 11. it can also revive trashed femmes.

main goal is to siphon hard, then index hard. without money no mid-game ice will get rezzed and even if it will, there is always another server to run or femme to bypass it cheaply. btw its rare to see 4+ ices on r&d and by that time i can usually switch to bomb hq, agendas should be there.

eli is 2 credits with femme not 5.

with this deck u frequently take a turn or two with just opus credits and then make multiaccess runs.

be very aggro with this deck. it works for me :)

With the current state of the game, it's impossible to keep the Corp broke just with repeated siphoning (especially since a SOTed siphon practically costs you an entire turn). Running both siphon and vamp works sometimes, but it's nowhere near guaranteed vs a richer Corp build. That's why I'm saying you really, really can't rely on heavier ICE not getting rezzed. And if you main plan to handle Eli involves Femming him, you're probably in trouble :P

Also, if you plan to siphon aggressively, you really need a third carapace. Otherwise you risk just outright dying and throwing the game.

i understand your point of view, it reflects perfectly 'internet way of thinking/metagame' ...and it all depends on meta, isnt it? im not an internet player, so my decks are not finetuned for octgn. im also not building all around toolbox deck that can deal with everything.

cant see plenty of eli's here. way too much wraparounds/enigmas/ice walls/rotos/grims. and my rig just crushes that as well as single eli here and there ;)

i published this deck, so i can share it to my gaming group. i hope they will read it, change their playing habits and then i could move to different builds :)

Yeah, it could very well be a meta difference. We have a relatively small playgroup here, but it's very very competitive, on par with the best you can meet on OCTGN. So for me, there isn't as much difference between the local and the internet meta and I'm used to evaluating for maximum efficiency :P