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General premise is Datasucker deck with Femme Fatale's, Atmans and Parasites.
Changers from 3.0
Only minor changers this time but important ones after a few play thews i found the Desparado SOOOO much more use than the grim and all though the stimhack was useful to have i feel squeezing in another Desparado is more important and i feel dropping a Femme is not an option tho i don't always need them their are times i need both in play. with the space for another card i decided that the SMC was the filler as losing the parasite for one earlier was a good change, interestingly its actually helped my parasite been able to kill an ICE mid run with it has turned out better than having the parasite in my hand so another one cant be a bad thing. Id still run 3 parasites if i had the influence to but i need that influence for the Desparado.
Changers form 2.0
Parasite down 1 for SMC to free up some influence without hindering my parasiting 2 much.
Gordian Blade gone finding little use for it and costs 2 much to have it. Stimhack added for surprise runs when low on cash works well with clone chip and SMC too.
1 grim changed for a desperado the extra cash will be useful but i like the memory and extra virus tokens from grim running both gives me the option from game to game (in Theory anyway).
Snowball changed for Inti snowball costs too much for the little use i get out of it and with datasuckers its just as useful
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25 May 2014
Dydra
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25 May 2014
Dydra
Not to mention that you can fetch the remaining DS with the Djinn, or the parasite if he isn't coming up =) |
25 May 2014
Pinkwarrior
I don't like the free lance from what I've played of it i also am not sure how i would fit it in, problem with free lance is you have to discard quite a few programs to get cash and then you cant take as much damage. I find running face first into net/meat damage works well for dumping programs and i get the benefit of not having to break said ICE (which can save alot of money) or failing that draw up an discard. That said i find i don't always need the Femme and i have never had to pay 9 for it. I am reluctant to drop another parasite as then am using more recurrence on them and boy do i use them things alot. But the Djinn is an interesting idea that ill look at and cud be worth while despite my reluctance. Also i find test run do a run then scavenge where you want the femme works better for me :) Thanks for the comments i hope this helps with your exile deck. |
25 May 2014
Dydra
Well if u play Freelance the economy is quite different and you generally play 3x Quality time and around 18-to-21 programs ... my Exile is quite different in that sense Also I'm just a max efficiency user ... if I can test run femme from the heap and scavenge her for +2 cards, rather than run her from the deck and scavenge her for 1 card ... I'll go with the first play 9 out of 10 times =) That's why my deck revolves so much around everything being in the heap =) although I have quite a different late game than u as well, with keyhole and nerve agent to have pressure on all centrals rather than R*D =) |
25 May 2014
Pinkwarrior
I see i defiantly play a little different to you then. Id rather not have to do other plays to get the extra card i feel i can always just draw that for the click spent for the other play. i view exiles ability as a bonus for using my heap which i would use anyway. it be interesting to see your exile deck tho and see a different take on it. |
25 May 2014
Dydra
I'll probably upload a version of it once I'm done with testing next Tuesday (it's the meet up day for Netrunner here), but generally when I make Exile deck, I want my entire deck to revolve around his ability :) rather than being simply a bonus ... I've came up with so many great ideas for Exile, like Overmind-Connections deck with Oracle May and Motivation ... and I come to the conclusion that there is absolutely no reason to play Exile over Kate, except for RP value lol ( and sadly RP value does not make a deck efficient or strong :( ) |
25 May 2014
Pinkwarrior
I came to a similar conclusion their i simply prefer exile as an ID 'he's less boring :)' the only benefit you have as exile is extra damage when running from the extra draw which with clone chips you can do at instant speed to save your ass, so i run him more aggressive since that's the only benefit you have over Kate. also with all the Jinteki decks around atm that extra damage is quite the little advantage. |
25 May 2014
Pinkwarrior
I saw this deck sometime ago netrunnerdb.com and thought that maybe he's on to something for just 2 influence one can run 2 pawns in a parasiting deck like this giving you free card draw every so often for runs and desarado gives free credits 2. This been something only exile could do and theirs no easy way to stop this with the parasiting on top the only problem is getting that 2 influence. |
25 May 2014
Dydra
Well, yeah, the only two builds that fully utilize Exile's identity (do the max) are either a build which I'm using in my deck ( Overdraw, Freelance, Levy , scavange+ test run for expensive breakers once in the heap) or a deck that runs Pawn+ Deep Red+ Scherizade and do the "combo" for 1-2 card draw+ 1-2 money per draw. However, the big counter-argument to the later, was that Desperado+ John Masanori is same effect , but a lot less pieces and much easier to put into pretty much any deck :\ I tried the Pawn+ Deep red+ Scherizade (with my remaining influence going on Knight/Parasite), however I found out that time needed to setup the combo is crazy and when you have to Test Run or SMC for Scheherizade you just wanna kill yourself :( |
25 May 2014
Pinkwarrior
Hmm i see doesn't sound like it would gel with me then either since i prefer to be aggressive, i guess that's something i don't need to try out now anyway :) |
I've been trying to make an exile work and this is an interesting take on it. However, without Free Lance coding do u just draw up and Discard the Femmes? Hard casting them for 9 seems pretty rough ... and Yeah Test Run + Scavenge the Femme from heap for 2 card draw on instant speed and 3c is the real deal ... but as I said you would get a bit more value from Freelance Coding her into the heap than simply discard
Also here is an Idea, instead of 2nd Parasite, u can pick up a Djinn to host your Data suckers and taking care of your memory problems. Which u can SMC for 4c ... which isn't a lot at all!