Temujin Katman

Could it make due with 2 Patrons, or is 3 absolutely necessary? Just wondered. :)

@esutter479 Not sure honestly! Could be the first cut. It's really nice to have early, especially comboing with Temujin.

Nice to see it back in action. Is parasite the only answer to swordsman?

Swordsman is a destroyer, so the Sharpshooter can help there too.

Do you ever have memory problems?

How have you found matchups like HB where they can get ice down to tax the Temujins? Is Kati a worthwhile consideration?

No plas, no clot. Those are problems. Cut a Temujin and the Patrons + 1 RDI and play the Colony/Fan Site combo and you'll be much better off.

@BizTheDadNope. You don't necessarily need 3x Atman 2x Datasucker out but if you do you're in endgame and should be able to cut through a server really easily.

@AbstractNo problem really, Katman always did pretty well against HB back in the day because of 4tman. Turing is a thing but Cy-Cy deals with it on remotes and Parasite deals with it on centrals. Temüjin Contract is amazing because you don't necessarily need to put it on Archives and gain 16, you can also use it to get refunded for Indexing/regular runs.

@CJFMI agree that no Clot feels bad but Temujin feels so important that I'm really loath to cut one just yet. If I'm getting run over by FA I will but so far winning off Indexing seems enough. Plascrete isn't a problem if you have enough money but cutting a Patron for a Film Critic (or maybe even a Sports Hopper?) would probably be fine and serve a pretty similar role with a bit more versatility. The Colony/Fan Site combo is an interesting idea - I'll see if I can make some cuts and will give it a try. Worth noting that Patron and Beth are kickass draw though.

On Plascrete: All the money in the world can't save you from 24/7 Traffic Scorched

Are there any general guidelines in setting the Atmans' strenght? Or is it mostly on matchup by matchup basis?

@mifu Now-a-days it's very matchup dependent, but can't go too far wrong with the classic 0,2,4

@Elodius That's fair. I actually haven't seen it once since MWL 2 so kind of forgot about it.

@sruman, @mifu Agreed, 0,2, 4 is the classic and covers a lot. Remember that you want to be recurring Parasite as well to blow up low strength multi sub ICE like NEXT Silver.

@SneakdoorMelb Yeah, the only real problem is if yellow gets one of those Astro + SanSan -> three more agenda draws and you don't run HQ a bunch of times. How fast has the setup been?

Played the deck in German Nationals, I just swapped a Patron for a Hopper. Won against one horizontal deck and three Glaciers, lost one to HBFA with the goddraw. Very very fun, thanks for posting it.

@CJFM Yeah, sometimes NBN just wins. Setup seems fast so far.

@Labbes Awesome! Glad to hear it.

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