so simplistic, very cool. Why no inject or peddler though?

With only 11 programs, Inject is a good influence free substitute for diesel.

Definitely use the influence for 2xE3 Feedback Implants, you dont' want to be breaking multisub ice with cards only.

Pancakes are usually good at 2x, You don't need them always, 1 click for 2 cards is still good.

Imo you are too heavy on the hand size enlargement. I would go 2x Brain Cage and that's it. Public sympathy won't save you vs Midseasons anyway and holding 10+ cards doesn't help you in any way, just run somewhere!

Parasites feel weak without Grimoire, Clone chips and Datasuckers.

1 Levy is more than enough with E3, I run a quetzal deck with Faust and I am not even running one and it's fine.

A few questions jump out at me:

• Given you could substitute diesel and quality time, for inject and earthrise hotel , are they worth the influence? The 9 additional influence could be spent on all sorts of good things -- clone chips, e3, etc.

• datasuckers would be a good additional. 1 of them would allow you to break odd-strength ice without spending the extra card.

What do you think?

How much work has Wanton Destruction done in this deck? It seems a bit ancillary.

Ancillary is definitely the wrong word to use there now that I typed it.

@sruman Inject isn't ideal here because you want to keep cards in your hand as much as possible. Although it's okay, I guess, if you have things to spend your influence on. Where would you put that influence? Lucky Find?

Also, what do you do about Komainu?

this deck asks for e3

If you are removing 1 levy as well you have tons of influence to work with. I'd say 3xclone chip, 2xe3 for the 12 influence.

Whoops, only 10 influence but the cards add to 10.

Woah, tons of responses!

@mcpba I had Inject in the first draft. It's annoyingly unreliable, and it doesn't help when you want to see Faust or Medium as soon as possible. It's not unjustifiable though, and I recommend trying it to see if you like it better. Peddler doesn't get cards into my hand, so it's not very useful to me.

@juliandark I very much recommend keeping Diesel.

You could try E3 Feedback implants, but that's sort of a different direction for the deck.

Brain Cage is unique so I would only be able to install 1 copy. You want to build up a large hand size with plenty of cards to trash before you Vamp and dig. 9 is about ideal.

If the Parasites feel weak, that's because you've been spoiled by instant speed madness. Sure, those cards are Parasites at their best, but they are still amazing cards all by themselves.

@sruman. Earthrise Hotel is definitely not a substitute for Quality Time. Quality Time lets you suddenly and unexpectedly gain a huge number of cards to ditch to Faust.

I could see Datasuckers. I just wish I had instant parasite capability. Maybe I'll try Clone Chip.

@triplenine Wanton allows you to apply additional HQ pressure and mess them up if they're holding a bunch of agendas in HQ. It's not necessary, it's just pretty good.

@Friff14 Cry. This deck has no counter to Komainu, and when you hit it, you will lose every single card in your hand one way or another. It's very sad. Luckily, you can still continue the run if you're a baller, draw back up super quickly with Wyldside, and then crush the Komainu with Parasite.

@iloveMRT This deck is not built for E3, though it could be, if that's what you wanted to do with it.

@sruman You definitely, definitely want to keep 3xQuality Time for the core of this deck to work. I may experiment with cutting Diesels for Clone Chips and slotting Inject, since the two cards have obvious synergy. My main problem is deck space. It's bloated as it is and cuts will be painful.

I think a one-of Grappling Hook would be good just in case of Komainu. Any influence room?

Wow @Friff14, your mind goes to janky places to try to solve problems. I think I'm going to try adding some instant speed parasite tech, to really tear through ice. That's probably the best solution.

Yeah, but you'd need a way for it to be both instant and kill it at the same time. You'll still lose your hand if you parasite it unless you have ice carver, datasucker, or something else like that. I see a lot of Komainu where I'm at, so I have to have some strategy against it. Grappling Hook is one of the best ways to deal with it in my experience.

I'll be using Grimoire @Friff14.

I don't understand why Brain Cage over a third Public Sympathy - as far as I can tell, you're just saving 1 credit while losing a card (which I'd have thought is the more important resource). Is it so they can't trash it if you get tagged?

yeah this deck desperately needs a way to hit Komainu. that's the only way i've lost with it.

I'll be trying it with E3 to try to take care of Komainu. It sounds effective. The only real question is how to make the room for it.

I missing econ so badly in this deck. I'm broke after installing wyldside/pancake/faust and cant do anything.

Hunh, that hasn't been my experience at all. I mean, you'll want to make sure you get a Liberated or at least a Daily Casts before you start installing all your cards. But I really haven't been short on money, far from it.

Tried it out today and loved it. I took out the Levy and added an SMC to try out in case I was having trouble finding a program on the go due to the size, but usually ended up pitching it as Faust fodder, but I think I still like the idea of it, so I'll play around with it more.

I was playing a Quetzal version of this with E3, but I generally felt more poor with that deck and less so with this one. I think a lot of that comes from the extra Whizzard credits you get, but I also think that because this deck forgoes spending influence on E3 it can pack more draw power, which means I usually have cards for the breaking rather than needing to use cards + E3. I like the deck out of Quetzal, but it feels very very good here as well.

I'm tempted to take out a single Medium and replace it with a Mimic for the Komainu and Swordsman problem, but earlier today I ran into a Komainu and lost around 7-8 cards, and still won handily, so maybe it doesn't need to happen. Either way, this deck is a blast. =D

I feel stupid for asking but what the hellbis pancakes?

@Saan Glad you like it. :)

@Bladerunner_35 Adjusted Chronotype.

Awesome deck! It feels like piloting an unstoppable machine. I modified it slightly for my own play style with Nerve Agent and an extra D4v1d, and I took Friff14's advice about the single Grappling Hook, but nearly all the original features are there.

Extremely consistent, difficult-to-keep-out deck. Komainu has already been addressed, and I run a single Mimic in case of Swordsman, but Turing can also be a bit of an issue. On a remote, however, D4v1d (or triple-clicking if you're sure it's an agenda) puts Alan in his place. Oh, and of course, Parasite can work wonders.

The corp cannot help but feel insecure when you've got an 11-card hand, and Wyldside bulks you up to thirteen so that you can fearlessly run whatever he's trying so hard to keep from you using Faust and D4v1d (seriously, with Deja Vu, Faust and D4v1d are the dream team).

Keep your IHW copies handy, though, as building your engine a turn or two faster is not worth getting flatlined by Weyland.

I played this deck for rund about 10 games against different corps and usually came out on he winning side. I removed the 2nd Levy AR Lab Access and the Wantons and pulled in an e3 Feedback Implants, a Datasucker and a Grimoire.

The E3 gives a lot of variation and helps against Komainus and makes Eli 1.0 a cheap one, but I also had some economy issues. I focused a bit on putting the Liberated Accounts on the board even if it took me some creditclicks and it worked out well.

Its simply a great deck. I consider 2 instad of 3 handsizeimprovements and adding an additional economy card but am not so sure about this as a handsize of 7 is a nice support especially in the early stage.

What about Same Old Thing ? Could be pretty useful i think..