I am feeling a little bit poor...

@say200426 That's why everything is pretty cheap. I never feel poor with this. You just have to watch out for Whizzard because they'll trash your PADs. Not even Whizzards usually trash Marked Accounts (except one that also ran Scrubber), so try a few more of those if you're getting denied a bunch of money. People think MA isn't that good, but in reality, it's basically clicking for 3 credits. And people are always going to trash Daily Business Show (I've still never gotten it in play with this deck), and since Whizzard is so popular right now, maybe subbing that out for some economy is a better idea. Play it how you like it.

If you need more barriers, Wraparound is in faction ;)

I've always loved Caduceus with this ID.

@Axlotl That's a really great idea! Maybe I'll try subbing out the Architects for it.

Never sub out the Architects unless it's for a ichi 1.0. ;)

Haha, if you've never seen an NBN with Ash 2X3ZB9CY, you've never played me! I've loved the card in the yellow faction for a loooong time.

Sorry to be THAT GUY, but... Have you tried this out of NEH? Those extra couple of influence give you a few more tools to play with, and the draw never hurts either. I've experimented with cards like Edge of World (no-one sees this one coming...). I also like Errand Boy in this style of deck, hugely annoying to break, but gives you even more money when they don't!

@unitled I think you asked me that when I tried the very first iteration of this on OCTGN (or it was another guy on OCTGN with a username beginning with a U), and I hadn't yet. I have now, and I find that I really need the extra credits from MN a lot more than I need card draw. I've only ever wanted to click to draw once, and that was when I was flooded and needed Jackson. During that one game, maybe NEH would have been slightly better. But in that same game, I was able to keep the runner out with an Ash and the identity.

Plus, Whizzard.

@Friff14 I don't use OCTGN, so almost certainly not me! I looked back through the decklist after making that comment, there are more traces than I spotted on first blush, and even just using it on Ash to be honest you make life a lot more difficult for the runner!

That said... I'd love to see the Runner's face if you managed to get Oaktown Grid in the server with the Ash :P

@ericbtool I don't really mind Femme, because unless they've got a way to cheat it out (Test Run/London Library & Scavenge or something similar), they're spending more credits on Femme than I am. 9 credits is a lot, and I've only got Tollbooth, Heimdall 1.0, and Flare in that range. Everything else is really cheap and expendable when it comes to Femme. I really haven't had trouble against it at all.

Also, I don't think Underway Grid is going to be very good, if only because it's extremely situational. There aren't many problems with bypassing, at least not in my meta. But if you feel like you need it, go ahead and try it. It's just going to be dead space in my decks.

why the hell was my font so outrageous?

thx for reply

Have you made any changes to this since it was posted?

@Yubinshan Not really. I sub out the quicksand for a wraparound or a bastion on occasion, and I like Caduceus better than architect at the moment, especially with MN. I think I'll try it with Ichi 1.0, but nothing but the ice has changed at all. I'll sub out character assassination when Old Hollywood hits.

Thanks for the reply. I am curious: how do you feel about the economy package?

As near as I can figure, you have ~75 worth of ice costs, not counting install tax, but only ~25 worth of stable econ (assuming they trash your PADs).

The economy, I find, is just enough. Not a ton, but enough that you don't worry much about it. This deck doesn't like siphon much. :)

Wondering if any cards from Underway or Old Hollywood have tickled your fancy. Explode-a-palooza gives you slightly more money but doesn't help when scored unlike Character Assassination. Little Engine also looks like some supremely vicious ice as long as you can cover your centrals (datasuckers).

I like Explode-a-palooza a lot in here. Little Engine is awful. Just the worst.

Film Critic hates this deck, and most will install it because they expect Midseasons from the ID. It totally turns off Red Herrings. Nothing you can do about it. So until all the hype around Film Critic dissolves (which could be, you know, when it cycles out...), NBN is once again glacierless. :(

You mean Film Critic hates on this deck, not that Film Critic hates playing against this deck, right?

Don't get so down right away. After all, they still have to get through the Glacier to reach the agenda, don't they? Not trying to think of an entirely different deck, but perhaps upgrades that tax during the run like Midway or trap assets could be the way to go?

Yes, I meant hates on. I don't think Midway is going to work as there aren't a whole lot of ice with many subs, and all of them are imported.

I think if I do another glacier deck like this I'm going tag-tax instead. Psychographics and Closed Accounts to punish those foolish enough to keep tags. Just a bunch of nice tagging ice and maybe some tag-happy agendas.

I'm still super enjoying this but I haven't bumped into film yet. I'd love to see you try your hand at tag-tax though! Closed Accounts and punishing resources are threats enough without having to import other things, and Shoot the Moon and Information Overload might find a place. I wonder if it is worth building before Data and Destiny hits.

Have you seen the NEH Glacier deck that uses License Acquisition and Corporate Town? Seems pretty nasty. netrunnerdb.com