The Other Blue Meat

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gumonshoe 2987

It's basically an update on the old core of what used to be a tier 1 Andy deck with a take on what criminal players have been ignoring. I'm going to be honest, there's 0 playtesting here, but I know most of the deck is good stuff and I'll make an argument for any card in the deck. First, it'd be cool if you'd take a look at it, think about why a card might work that you'd previously not put in given our current meta and try to make an argument for how another card might be better.

Questions? Shoot. This is not perfect, but I think it reintroduces some tech that we've been ignoring that solves a lot of criminal's current "problems"

Problem 1: No recursion. Solution 1: Don't recur, Protect.

Problem 2: Bad Breakers. Solution 2: Get the good breakers, make them better, use what you have; your econ should be good enough.

Problem 3: Account Siphon isn't good anymore. Solution 3: Wake up, it's still good, play a 1x feint and surprise your opponent. Play vamp as well for the first "kick down" so that you can hold them down with siphon.

Problem 4: No R&D Access. Solution 4: R&D interface. Meet the new solution, same as the old solution.

Problem 5: Card Access. Solution 5: Forgedaboutit. Order+Earthrise+Andromeda. Don't know what else you even need. Running's how you win (Masanori if necessary).

12 comments
24 Jun 2015 gumonshoe

Heard a suggestion to cut the Dirty Laundries for some Daily Casts so that you have reliable econ. Probably worth considering!

24 Jun 2015 UminWolf

I'm confused as to how Feint surprises your opponent with respect to Account Siphon.

I'm not sure what Feint does in this deck anyway?

24 Jun 2015 gumonshoe

UminWolf; the main complaint right now about siphon is Crisium grid; Feint gives you an easy cheap way of getting in (discounted) to trash crisium to prime that hit. It's also probably very reasonable tech against Blue Sun if you do pack shutdown (I'm aware that isn't in this list). I agree this is one of the easier cards to cut, but if crisium is in every deck you face, it makes a lot of sense even just to make legwork a sure thing.

24 Jun 2015 UminWolf

@gumonshoe: gotcha, that makes a lot of sense actually. Thanks :)

24 Jun 2015 muldr

If your Feint is successful, then you can't access any cards, including upgrades, to the best of my knowledge.

24 Jun 2015 UminWolf

@muldr: Wow, now I feel silly. I believe you are correct.

I'm pretty sure Feint is only used for Quest Completed, Notoriety, and things like Emergency Shutdown.

24 Jun 2015 FarCryFromHuman

If there's a rezzed Crisium Grid, then your Feint primed run cannot be successful. You then access as normal, and trash the grid. Of course, you still get to skip the first two pieces of ICE...

24 Jun 2015 UminWolf

@FarCryFromHuman: So you're saying, the Feint goes off, the run is successful, but Crisium Grid says that Feint's text of "you cannot access any cards" never fires because the run isn't considered "successful" with respect to Feint because Crisium Grid says it doesn't count for cards. Therefore, you CAN access cards, allowing you trash Crisium Grid?

24 Jun 2015 gumonshoe

@FarCryFromHuman, exactly. :D Exploits!

24 Jun 2015 FarCryFromHuman

@UminWolf: Your wording is a little incorrect but your understanding is not. Feint Batmans the hell out of Crisium Grid.

"Come back here and I'll break your other one."

"My other what?"

dry twigs snapping

24 Jun 2015 muldr

D'oh! I always forget about this beautiful little interaction with Crisium and Feint. If the Crisium is already rezzed then Feint is a perfect way to get rid of it and see some cards. If not, and you are just checking for Crisium before a Siphon, Feint won't cut the mustard. They can just choose not to rez it and then you cannot access.

24 Jun 2015 FarCryFromHuman

Yeah you'd only play the Feint after Crisium Grid is rezzed. The real trick here is getting the corp to rez it; you pretty much have to sacrifice an Account Siphon to get that to happen. The only reason I can think of a corp rezzing the grid on a non-event/non-Gabe run on HQ would be to block a suspected Utopia Shard install... Or if they suspect Emergency Shutdown would totally ruin their day or something.