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My first Tenma deck, and I'd love some feedback. I've had some good luck on OCTGN so far and am hoping to get some insight to tune it up.
Nothing to crazy, I don't think, but so far it's a quick rig to set up and I tend to have great money and efficient breakers. Here are some considerations:
No Plascretes + AS = Scary. Might add two in, and remove...
Kati Jones. Doesn't feel synergistic or necessary (in the 5 games I've played so far, I never put her out, and never needed to). That said, she's the only permanent source of cash flow, so I'm a little afraid to take her out completely.
I want a 3rd Desperado for Christmas
Thanks for input!
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9 Jul 2014
Manjusri
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9 Jul 2014
famebyproxy
Great playing with you I'm not sure about ditching the second Gordian (or other breakers). One of the things I've really enjoyed is how quickly I get a rig set up and I'd hate to sacrifice that for event recursion (which I already have some of with SOT). You are right, though, that I may be too reliant on event-based econ, and Levy could help me out in a pinch. I'll give it a shot and see how quickly I get set up (probably adding in a third Special Order to compensate. Looking forward to our next match. |
9 Jul 2014
famebyproxy
This way I'm still keeping the same breaker density, at least as far as accessing centrals goes, and improving my tutoring if I really need Gordian. I'm also easing my tag-punishment concerns (less resources, Plascrete, etc. |
9 Jul 2014
Manjusri
Looks solid to me! Hope you like the Levy! Regarding PPVP, note that with the changes you just listed, you only have 8 non-zero-cost Run Event cards in your deck that Public Terminals actually help. You have 19 total non-zero-cost Event cards (with those changes) that PPVPs can work on. My question would be: Is it worth saving 1 credit to have a half-as-potentially-useful recurring credit? |
10 Jul 2014
Toobiased
I m not so sure about your econ. It seams like a taxing deck might get you low on credits early. Also installing Garrote is a huge tempo loss in this deck. Katie seams important since she could potentially mitigate that tempo hit. Most of your econ requires you to be able to run for |
10 Jul 2014
Toobiased
Somehow half of my comment got eaten. (markdown probably didnt like my less than sign) ... less than 2 credits. Kens Credit, Account Siphon, Dirty Laundry, Desperado, Public Terminal and Security Testing all become way worse against corps who can protect themselves early. Your only remaining econ is Sure Gamble and Katie (PAD only counts if you also have Sure Gamble). |
10 Jul 2014
famebyproxy
If anything, I think Katie Jones is a worse tempo hit than Garrote. If you count draw, install and clicking to put credits on her, it takes her a few turns to be profitable and more to really be impactful. In the mean time, I have to be wary of tags lest she get trashed. She's just not the right fit for this deck. Corps need to draw and pay for ICE in order to keep a runner out, and if they're paying to rez ICE on all three centrals, that's money they don't have to spend advancing agendas or doing other trickery. |
16 Jul 2014
Toobiased
Mileage may vary, but your breakers are not as efficient as you might think they are. For a Taxing deck you can look at a standard CI build: Eli -> 4c Hive -> 6c Viktor 2.0 -> 5c ichii 1.0 -> 5c There are more efficient breakers: Morning Star, Torch, Garrote fixed strength breakers (unreliable but cheaper). What you have is a reliable rig that is pretty easy to setup. What you want to do, is leverage that into points, and making it faster to setup might be one way. This is why I run 3 Faerie in an otherwise pretty similar deck. |
Good games! I'm really glad I got to play against this deck!
Three Inside Jobs seems overkill to me, good as it is, especially when you have two Planned Assaults as well as SoT.
Public Terminals are only for runs while your PPVPs are all-event and can be used on a total of 9 more cards in spite of costing one more to set up.
Could just cut down to a single Kati and see if you wish you had it more often.
Crescentus might as well be Emergency Shutdown; it's different enough that maybe you only replace 1-2 with Emergency Shutdown.
I'm going to throw this out there: Replace 1 Gordian Blade with a Levy AR Access Lab.
You already spent the three influence. LARLA gives you back-pocket full-deck recursion. It synergizes with your PPVDs to cost you 1-3c less. It enables you to run a leaner breaker suite:
1x Corroder
1x Garrote
1x Gordian Blade
1x Faerie
That breaker suite frees up two more influence and one more card slot with the ability to Special Order a Faerie early game if need be, backed up by LARLA if things go south.
LARLA is also nice as a reset once you've already got your rig set up, further justifying the removal of 1-2 Katis depending on how reliance on econ event recursion feels for you.
Finally, there's no need to actually wait to play it after you mill yourself. Even if you draw it early, ditch it into your archives. You can use your last Same Old Thing to play it whenever you feel like the time is right/you just played a lot of your econ early and want to draw 5 cards while restoring the econ cards/whatever.
That all said, you clearly got a handle on this deck as-is! I look forward to running against you sometime!