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Standard Ban List 23.09 (latest) |
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A Study in Static |
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Tournament-Winning Decklist: Keystone v2.0 | 228 | 194 | 55 |
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Chaostone | 0 | 0 | 4 |
Blue Sun v9999 | 1 | 1 | 5 |
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The latest refinements to Keystone 2.0. I have been playing this for a quite a while, taking it to numerous GNK tournaments and Store tournaments (there are 3 tournaments per month held within driving range here), and watching how it performs. There are always stronger and weaker matchups, to any deck, but I definitely feel I have tuned this deck to the apex of what it can be. When Order and Chaos is released Keystone will be reinvented in Argus Security, with a rough-draft decklist already in mind that I look forward to proxy-testing soon (based on spoiler info). I'm happy to answer any questions about this deck, and especially hoping to be able to record some games of me playing it to share with you all before the launch of OaC!
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9 Jan 2015
Elthane
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9 Jan 2015
sruman
I find Information Overload a curious choice. Trace 1 is not that strong and giving the tag is only good on runner's last click-run (which good players won't usually do). It's not really an over-sight AI target or anything so ... Why not just another Data Raven which has a better (And more useful if you win) trace and is more taxing to run for less money. |
9 Jan 2015
moistloaf
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9 Jan 2015
IonFox
Just wondering, what are your thoughts om putting in an elizabeth mills (probably taking out a shutdown) in order to have a means to deal with all the bad pub this deck spits out? |
9 Jan 2015
Glitch
I believe his first version of this deck had Elizabeth Mills in it and he talked about taking it out because it doesn't usually add up to very much. Also, in Weyland, bad publicity is more of a help than a hindrance since it helps to set up Midseason Replacements, Scorched Earth, Power Shutdown and Information Overload.
I'm digging this version of the deck just like you're other version but I'm also confused about the swap to Argus Security: Protection Guaranteed. In my limited experience proxying that ID, the ability rarely works the way you want it to. To be fair though, you might see something that I don't (you did make this awesome Weyland archetype). Keep up the good work! |
9 Jan 2015
ncaron
Just out of curiosity, have you thought about Eliza's Toybox in this deck? Also, how often and to what use do you mostly use Biotic Labor? |
9 Jan 2015
nydnarb
@ncaron Biotic Labor can do a lot of work. For one, you can score a Project Atlas out of hand, usually for the win. You can recur it multiple times with Jackson Howard and Project Atlas tokens. I've used it to triple Scorched Earth my opponent in one turn (after a Midseason Replacements). It really opens up your hand. |
10 Jan 2015
ItJustGotRielle
Sorry for the long answer, hope I was able to shed some light on my thoughts behind the picks. |
10 Jan 2015
ItJustGotRielle
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10 Jan 2015
ItJustGotRielle
A more rewarding play, do the same thing with a Posted Bounty while holding Midseason/Scorches. Run and take this, get tagged, die. Don't run and take this, Biotic to triple advance Bounty, Scorch, die. Welcome to Weyland, where all decisions you give the runner are bad. For them. |
10 Jan 2015
ncaron
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10 Jan 2015
SlySquid
God damn I love these fucking decks!!!!!!!!!!!!! SOOOO GOOOD! I played you last verson and it was tight, can't wait to sleeve this up... |
10 Jan 2015
Halarith
I feel like the moment you put more 5/3s in this deck you should become a Punitive Counterstrike deck; and at that point you're changing the entire structure of this deck. All that being said, |
11 Jan 2015
elderbookwyrm
I've been running a version of Blue Sun Keystone, tweaking it. Just a simple question. What do you think of Lycan vs Grim? I found the ability to have a program destruction on a non-sentry has been useful at times. Though my guess is the extra strength is the reasoning. I'm curious to see your Argus build. |
11 Jan 2015
ItJustGotRielle
Geothermal Fracking is amazing, because when a runner is overcoming you, it buys you two turns, which is enough to get your next agenda out and move your board state forward. Surging forward fourteen credits (ideally with a curtain wall rezzed) means "break this remote and die". 3 pointers cannot be used to "power forward", instead you score one all game for a great effect that does nothing to help you work a flatline and consumes more than two entire turns. |
12 Jan 2015
ItJustGotRielle
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12 Jan 2015
ItJustGotRielle
Update: Took first at another GNK tournament Saturday, 13 attendance. Suffered a second round loss with the deck vs. a Kate (shaper is this deck's most difficult matchup) who rushed an Opus and my response to that is usually to set up a fast remote and score out to match point or dig for Midseason/Posted Bounty; I was ice flooded because I could not pull agendas to score when I had the windows to do so and he eventually scored out my 3 pointer to take the game, 4 - 7.
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12 Jan 2015
CowboyHatValor
Thanks for sharing, Blue Sun has been a love for the last few months but I've had some difficulty closing the game when scorch opportunities have passed and I have 5-6 points but vulnerable servers. Biotic does look to solve this not-completely-rare occurrence. Do you think swordsman could be an appropriate splash over Information Overload for an AI heavy meta, or once O&C hits? |
12 Jan 2015
ItJustGotRielle
Eater is very worrisome to me for this deck. However, Swordsman is a very useless ice for Weyland if AI is not threat though, as your destroyer suite is likely to get a killer out asap. I would much rather they run my Data Raven with their Crypsis than a swordsman, since it will only fire once, and like I mentioned, AI decks have a lot of support to deal with losing one. I will never cut IO. I'm telling you, you may not understand until you've used the deck a few times, but IO scares the hell out of the runner, even when untagged, because they realize that you must be playing tag support cards to use it; they look at your 30 credits and your Curtain Wall and they realize if they steal from you, they better be ready to have a 16-credit pool to use for facechecking. Femme tricks do not keep it from gaining subroutines, it cannot be broken with David, Atman-4 still pays for it. You bounce it, shuffle HQ, put down 2 pieces, and they need to have another 16 to not lose their board. Midseason makes a runner go tag-me, and IO makes you win when they go tag-me. That being said, Eater effects (mainly Keyhole, god) will likely make me add one or two Will o the Wisp, since Eater is not a virus and not searchable. If you have issues with AI that is the most practical card for you right now. |
13 Jan 2015
ncaron
Alright, one more thought. How about swapping one Geothermal Fracking for a Private Security Force? If they get multiple tags it seems it would put a lot of pressure on them. |
13 Jan 2015
ItJustGotRielle
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13 Jan 2015
ncaron
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13 Jan 2015
CowboyHatValor
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14 Jan 2015
Fortunasown
Got my entire board wiped by a IO in Weyland Sunday. Next turn he bounced it and scorched me to death. Yeah, that card is worth every penny and point of influence. |
17 Jan 2015
(A)Joke
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19 Jan 2015
ItJustGotRielle
@(A)Joke I tested Corporate War, and it's solid for the variants of this deck playing assets like Adonis. My deck though, generally runs lean- it's not hard to crack my HQ if the runner is determined to lose tempo to siphon me, which is a weakness for the deck. To shore up the weakness, I went with Fracking; Siphon recovery for a click. Corporate War takes advantage of your tempo letting you collapse the remote it's in to make the 7 threshold so there is obvious synergy, -however- this style of deck doesn't like to spend clicks it doesn't have to, reinstalling the bounced ice after netting your 7. If that's a 2nd row install, you're -1, plus the extra click, and it only fires WHEN you score, also potentially jeopardizing a central if you desperation-bounce an R&D ice hoping to threaten trace retaliation. With the Midseason in here, any turn they score an agenda they need 24 more credits than you (in a world with a rezzed Curtain and a scored Geothermal, not entirely unfeasible) to keep you from clearing Geothermal and last click Midseason'ing them to make them be tag-me the rest of the game (hello Information Overload!). Overall Geothermal makes the deck dynamic, makes you more threatening. Corporate War is a nice way to score 2 points while recovering your click costs and advancements, so it's good for keeping tempo. This deck lives on the razor edge and wants to leverage the dynamic power of Weyland to keep the game under your control. tl;dr- Geothermal for siphon recovery and Midseason. |
26 Jan 2015
CowboyHatValor
Took this to a Store Championship this evening. Didn't have time to test but figured I'd get a feel for the deck and get an alternate ID out of it. Didn't quite pull it off but walked away with a top-4 playmat. Highlight was IO being hit with 16 subroutines - wiped the board. Was surprised how intuitive the deck flows, which has typically been a problem with Weyland for me. Thanks for sharing the deck! |
27 Jan 2015
ItJustGotRielle
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27 Jan 2015
ttsgosadow
Have you played this deck against stealth Andy yet? Switchblade will be very good against this deck, sadly. |
27 Jan 2015
HiggsBozo
Weyland can get a lot or rushing done while Stealth Andy is still setting up. I [as Stealth Andy] managed to lose to Supermodernism in a tournament. |
16 Apr 2015
hbarsquared
Have you thought about porting this to Titan instead of Argus? Titan has two more influence, and your Atlas' don't need to be overadvanced to get a token. Mark Yale can replace the OAIs for massive burst econ, and the influence could buy you another IO or Data Raven. |
1 Jul 2015
Humanoids
Is this deck viable even now? With some tweaks it might do well, don't you think? |
What other changes do you plan to make based on O&C spoilers? Why argus? Why take keystone out if Blue Sun?