Logo's Quetzal

Pinkwarrior 2343

Logo's give's me some search (something anarch has none of) allowing me to go get what i need to change the board around.

Darwin plus Fester slows the corp for purging and cost them creds for doing so. The supplier saves so much money on resource's and hardware it's silly. D4v1d allows me to keep Darwin at a lowish 4 str.

Mimic allows me through most sentry's cheap and means i dont have to parasite swordsman if i see it. Express delivery cos i had a spare influence.

13 comments
25 Oct 2014 Softman25

Damn, that's a really fun Program / Breaker set.

I'd consider maybe ditching a Daily Casts for a Sure Gamble. (Or similar) Just to give a little more burst economy for when you need to get somewhere or do something specifically tricky. (Although I can see you not needing to do that often given your penchant for things like Darwin > e3 Feedback Implants)

25 Oct 2014 Pinkwarrior

@Softman25 true the burst would be nice, the reason i've gone for daily is that if all goes well i can get 8creds out of it with supplier and aesop's.

26 Oct 2014 moistloaf

Interesting Quetzal list. Logos is definitely great in shaper, and not too expensive at 2 Influence. I like the use of Supplier, too. I play a lot of Quetzal, but a totally different style, so I'm not sure I have any questions/comments on this one. Concept seems solid. Props for not running a Barrier (I don't either). Between her ability and Knight/Parasite, you don't need one, I have found.

26 Oct 2014 Exo

I'd would consider Liberated Account instead of Armitage. You already have The Supplier which make it a even more interesting card.

26 Oct 2014 Pinkwarrior

@Exo hmm id not thought of Liberated Account thanks ill give that a go.

28 Oct 2014 PaxCecilia

I agree with the guys above. I tried Daily in a Quetzal deck and getting the money over the course of 4 turns is just a little too slow for how much she benefits from running and threatening accesses. Sure Gamble and Liberated Account are both great replacements to test out.

How do you find Fester? I haven't had a chance to try it out yet!

28 Oct 2014 Exo

Daily Casts is a very good card with The Supplier, you're getting 7 credits out of it. If you manage to get The Supplier out early consistently, it can be worth to keep the Daily Casts.

29 Oct 2014 Pinkwarrior

@PaxCecilia I haven't actually had chance to play this deck yet mainly because i don't have first contact yet i've had some problems with orders so much so that i have up & over just not first contact.

You maybe right about daily but as Exo said it can give alot of creds with the supplier i'll have to test and find out weather the burst is more important than the overall creds.

31 Oct 2014 krystman

I tried it today. Really like this.

I noticed it was really difficult to get money if the Supplier wasn't out. Really don't see why there is Dirty Laundry and not Sure Gamble. Logos is nice against Fast Advance but if you rely on it to get the Supplier you are losing. By the time you start throwing your first stuff on the Supplier the corp is all iced up and scoring left and right. Most of the programs can be fetched with a Djin. So I was thinking about adding Hostage to make sure you can get The Supplier early (or to fetch Kati if Supplier is out):

Cards that baffle me:

  • 1 copy of Aesops? What are you trashing? What is 1 copy trying to do?
  • 1 copy of Express Delivery? Again, what is this trying to do and why only 1 copy?

Cards that I'm considering

  • Hostage (And maybe some connections with good synergies)
  • Keyhole - An excellent counter against Personal Evolution and pretty much instawin if you Medium AND Keyhole
  • Liberated Accounts
  • An additional off-faction virus that encourages purging. Especially Chakana.
  • Donut... Since we're so low on events anyway
31 Oct 2014 Exo

Krystman, that is a very constructive comments. Thanks for sharing it out.

31 Oct 2014 krystman

Oh and one more thing. I was thinking about replacing Nerve Agent with Hemorrhage. Mainly because you get to pressure HQ while applying pressure elsewhere.

31 Oct 2014 Pinkwarrior

@krystman First off Thanx! for the comments and the extensive criticism and especially for taking it for a spin seriously appreciate it.

First off the easy one the 1 off Express Delivery it was the last thing added when i only had one influence left i figured if i get it it can speed things up a little, maybe a sure gamble would be better their and just forget the last influence i just don't like wasting the 1 point.

The reason for no sure gambles was i felt it was a choice between either the daily or the sure, i chose daily as i figured id get more total cash out of it. I guess i forgot the dirty laundry's where their when i came to that decision, though i do like them for Datasucker runs i think sure gamble would be better here.

I think Liberated Account is a wise move. Probably for Armitage

Aesop's Pawnshop is for a few cards D4v1d, imp, daily, armitage the spare e3 Feedback Implants if it turns up. i figured i could search for it with logo's when i have little else i want but maybe it would be better to forget it in favour of either a 3rd The Supplier or a Hostage.

Nerve Agent for Hemorrhage maybe a good move i see the appeal i think id rather have both.

2 Nov 2014 moistloaf

Occurred to me today to try a deck with Fester and Darwin as primary breaker; figured I'd look to see if it had been done before for some guidance. Thanks!