Hayley/Replicator Stealth

fiveplus5is55 41

Personal Workshop works nice in this deck with my Hardwares and Hayley's effect. Together with Replicator it is just a sick engine.

Stimhack for my Hardwares on Workshop or to Clone or SMC sth.

Deck just needs little time, and i am not sure if i will have those time vs experienced players. I am not sold on The Toolbox and Dyson memory Chip. I guess if i got them in there i can skip Plascrete Carapace? Other options are Logos (cut some other influence ). But having the link out there helps me to be ready for everything. Appreciate any help

6 comments
26 Jan 2015 Alrik_40000

What about Comet and Trade-in? Play Trade-in, trash a junk piece of hardware like Rabbit Hole or something, search for and install a hardware, install another hardware, then play another Event. You get four clicks worth of work compression in just one.

27 Jan 2015 fiveplus5is55

hey, i dont like to have comet in this deck, cause i would need to play more events, which dont really fit in my deck style. Also, i am not sold of combining Comet and Hayley in one deck, as they also cancel each other out.

29 Jan 2015 sruman

Personally, I would say BlackKat is not worth the extra influence or pressure on the stealth credits (early, it'll be fine later). I've tried it and gone back to corroder. BlackKat is the same credits (or 1 less with stealth) to break Eli which is by far the most popular fracter and has similar "almost same amount" effect with other popular walls ( okay if you have 4 stealth credits Curtain Wall is considerably cheaper but ... ). I'd go corroder and find room for another stimhack to work with PW.

A few more questions -- there's really only 1 main item for the pawn-shop (I might be missing others but everything else looks useful to keep), is it worth the slots? Why the magnum? It is not synergistic with ProCo + Levy, 2 x Kate seems to be more standard and you could drop memory. Stealth decks break for cheap, so not sure that the Toolbox is worth it. Astrolabe is solid and cheap for effect + 1 memory (which is all you need without magnum) without the tempo hit. Lastly, what is the Net-Ready Eyes for ? Stealth breakers usually go high enough on their own for a re-occuring credit so not sure the target (switchblade to break 1 strength sentries? blackkat for cheap eli breaks?).

30 Jan 2015 fiveplus5is55

@sruman

thx for your reply. About the blacKat, i am going to give it some more time to test it. But like you said, it is very closed to not just replace it with Corroder.

Pawnshop trashes apart of caches (often multiple times due Levy,Clone Chip etc.) also SMCs or Clone Chips to prepare for sth big if i need the creds. Also use it lategame for ProCO, PW or Ghostrunner's with 1 cred left before i use Levy.

You are right about magnum, I already replaced it with deus x. Same goes for Plascrete, replaced it with 1 feedback filter to avoid net damage and the more occurring brain damage. Also i should have enough link strength to avoid tags and therefore meat damages.

Toolbox is great for that, and the extra creds i am still needing them for Refractor/Blackat. Same goes for Net-ready eyes, when i install it mid/lategame, i often have 2 useless cards on my hand and while the effect is not that strong in a stealth kid, it is still a powerful card. ( i guess it might be excellent in an overmind/ekomind deck ). Lategame i go on multiple runs each turn, so i might run out of my stealth creds then, and the extra strength of net-ready eyes might come in handy same as the reoccurring creds from toolbox. it also allows me to keep more creds in my bank to save for NAPD or sth.

The thing is , that i really want to keep at least 18-19 hardwares in this deck, preferable 2 or 3 copies each due to replicator.

again thx for your help, i am still new to netrunner so i appreciate any help really.

3 Feb 2015 EnderA

@fiveplus5is55 Interesting deck. It's similar to the one I've designed (also based around Replicator + Stealth.) You can see it here.

I have to agree with @sruman that BlacKat isn't worth it. It's 3 influence, which is a lot. It's very expensive to use unless you have tons of spare stealth credits. And even then it rarely saves many credits to break things. It has a 1-1 credit ratio for pumping, and that's if you spend half stealth credits. It saves break-costs only if there are multiple routines (and you spend stealth). Corroder and Battering Ram are both superior choices, in my opinion. You aren't even running any Dyson Fractal Generators, so you only have Ghost Runners and Cloaks to use for it.

On that note, I would also highly recommend changing out Switchblade for Dagger. The key difference? Breaking routines doesn't take stealth credits, and conservation of stealth credits is very important. Oh, and it doesn't take influence.

I would switch out the Dyson Mem Chips for Akamatsu Mem Chips. The link isn't worth the extra credits, in my opinion, especially if you have Aesop's Pawnshops that you might use them on, and a Replicator to duplicate them. 2 for +2 is better than 6 for +2, +2.

I agree with you that Comet isn't worth it, and that it's anti-synergistic in here. You want to pile up on other cards that you can play 2-for-1 click, and hardware you can replicate, not also spread into lots of events. However, @Alrik_40000's suggestion of Trade-In is good for this deck. It gets you at least either Replicator or a Stealth Chip, both of which this deck relies on heavily, and then that card can be immediately replicated.

I'm concerned that running singleton breakers will be a problem since you only have 3 Self-modifying Codes to search for them. Test Run would get you more access, even if they've been trashed.

Lastly, Stimhack plus Personal Workshop is a neat little combo, but not as strong with purely stealth breakers, since the credits are somewhat useless for actual breaking.

4 Feb 2015 sruman

@EnderA I eventually dropped Stimhack in my Kate Stealth build, for the reasons you mentioned -- generally if you have pay 9 real credits to run a server, you're in bad shape. However, it is good for that 1 surprise run from low credits when the corp thinks they have a window on final points. Additionally, CT has shown how effective it is with PW ( really how else can you get that Toolbox quick enough to be worth it ?), but I'd say that a 1-of Stimhack isn't going to consistently line up with worthwhile stuff on PW. For what it's worth, I went scrubber instead of NEH matchup (and to lesser extent RP).