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Seeing the Washington regional Tennin decklist on nrdb inspired me to post my decklist, if not just to highlight a variant build and to promote this underappreciated ID
I have been playing this deck for the past 4 months and its initially inspired by No Siphon Please to battle the growing eater keyhole siphon meta. I stole his idea of including Successful Demonstration and Crisium Grid. As highlighted by Afishisborn, Crisium Grid really shines in Tennin due its double function in keeping the ID on and preventing the pesky successful run-trigger events.
This deck is played as a semi rush deck. Start off with covering the centrals and then proceed to building up two-three ice deep remote. Most of the time, you would install an agenda and not advance it. Once you have Caprice installed on remote and Nisei token, people tend to ignore the remote completely so you have the option of dropping the never advance tactic and just go full on advance.
This deck has plenty of econs to support rezzing some of the taxing ices. Succesful demonstration really pulled its weigh as most people would try to put pressure on Tennin by forcing the ICE rez. It goes really well with Nisei token and Caprice too. I find the single Medical Research Fundraiser + 2 Restructure to be more useful overall than 3 Restructure. It could kickstart your econ early game or help you come back from account siphon etc in worst case situation. Most of the time by mid game, I would be swimming in money anyway with this econ suite so it doesn’t matter whether I have another Restructure to make me even richer.
The ice suite is straight forward and it focuses on taxing the runner. I have been toying with different number of Eli, wall of static, quicksand, Firewall and Tollbooth but finally decided to settle for this combination for the regional. Looking back at it, I think I would put back Tollbooth instead of Firewall as the current list lacks taxing codegate against Net-ready eyed Yog.
I am pretty content with the agenda suite. Braintrust is chosen over Medical Breakthrough as I can reliably rush 3/2 with Trick of Light if need be. Yes, you could argue Medical Breakthrough is better when one or two have been stolen, but I would rather not let people steal my agenda to advance my game plan. The slight issue I had in the regional which costed me two games, was to find a final agenda, just any, to close the game. I might consider adding fast track.
That’s all. Any comments and questions welcomed.
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24 Jun 2015
rnark
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24 Jun 2015
Chuftbot
This is brilliant, I love seeing successful builds for the less conventional (read: non-tree) Jinteki ID's. A couple questions: How is Grim performing for you? Does the program trashing close off more opportunities for the runner than the bad pub opens? What would you take out for Fast Track? Do you think Meru Mati could serve as an alternative to Fire Wall? |
24 Jun 2015
sruman
How about Wormhole over Firewall? It is fairly tough for yog + nre as well and can utilize the id ability. |
25 Jun 2015
RedV
I might drop one econ card (Succesful demonstration or Medical Research Fundraiser) to test out Fast Track. I think I would rather play two Eli for that two influence instead of Meru Mati but i already have two Eli. I think Ice wall in this deck is serving as Meru Mati without adding the location constraint. Since money is usually not an issue, i would probably still prefer Firewall for its taxing property in the long run. |
25 Jun 2015
b3ar
Nice Deck and thanks for sharing. I have to try that some time. Congratulations on your success from me as well. |
25 Jun 2015
Smashman
Congrats Also triple Successful Demonstration is OP... |
25 Jun 2015
munchli21
It was an honor to lose against such a great player and deck :) Congrats again to third place! |
25 Jun 2015
Hongkong Koma
Well played, |
25 Jun 2015
hbarsquared
I'm reading correctly that Crisium Grid and Successful Demonstration have an anti-synergy, right? Since a run on the Crisium server would not count as unsuccessful for the purpose of card abilities, SD wouldn't fire. I still like both cards in this deck, I just want to make sure I've got the ruling right. |
25 Jun 2015
sruman
It's certainly possible that BrainTrust might be over-advanced an reduce ice cost, but I rarely see it happen. How about a philotic swapped in for 1 brain trust? Unlikely you'll ping for more than 1 or 2 dmg but still might pay off more than braintrust on average. |
25 Jun 2015
Shulmey
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25 Jun 2015
RedV
Even if A runner is bounced off ETR ice with a rezzed Crisium Grid protecting the server, the run would still be considered unsuccesful and you could then play SD. Crisium only triggers the limbo state when the runner reaches the 'succesful run' phase before accessing cards. |
25 Jun 2015
RedV
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25 Jun 2015
Smashman
I think Genetic Resequencing is wishful thinking and you should swap that for the Philotic Entanglement, personally. |
25 Jun 2015
RedV
Up to a week before regional, I completely agreed with you and ran with Philotic instead of Resequencing which means I was running 21 instead of the 'optimum' 20 points. For some reasons after reading many discussions on the RP agenda suite and its agenda point density, I was convinced to go with 20 points, hence Resequencing. I would agree its wishful thinking too but two out of the seven games in the regional, I scored Resequencing to give me the second Nisei tokens. You should see how despirited my opponents were, I actually felt bad... And in all these games, there were no situation where Philotic would have won me the game instead of Resequencing. Else i would have been fuming mad... So bottomline, wishful thinking does happen huh, just like that triple Succesful Demonstration in your face, :). |
25 Jun 2015
wompa164
Great deck. I spent many winter months playing Tennin, glad to see people showing it some love. I might go +1 Firewall -1 Ice Wall. Not sure how Lotus Field and Enigma will stack up in the age of Yog+NRE.. |
25 Jun 2015
RedV
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13 Jan 2016
Ereshkigal
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13 Jan 2016
RedV
Re: Crick, I use it almost exclusively to protect Archive indeed to deter people from running Archive to get that succesful run. I guess you could put it in a 'heavily run at' server if your Caprice Nisei or Crisium Grid has been trashed and the runner havent got a decoder yet but I imagine this would be a rare case. |
13 Jan 2016
Ereshkigal
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19 Jan 2016
Ereshkigal
Oh my... Crick is such a must in this deck. Excellent synergy with... almost anything (Crisium Grid, Caprice Nisei, Jackson Howard, ICE, even trashed Agendas. I t helped me score a Nisei MK II after firing its subroutine! |
21 Jan 2016
RedV
Glad that you enjoy the decklist too. I find it's still strong even in the current meta. |
21 Jan 2016
Ereshkigal
Yeah, it's a very frustrating deck for the runner. They have to change their way of playing, they need to accelerate, this deck moves fast, excellent agenda density, right number of ICE, very good economy. You can recover from Account Siphon quickly, you can advance slowly as the runner struggles to find his breakers. It's really funny when you score the second Nisei MK II! The frustration on their face... |
5 Feb 2016
Ereshkigal
Hi again, took it to a small store tournament (unfortunately only 7 people there) and had two wins against Stealth Kate and Sunny. My runner unfortunately didn't make it, so... Had small changes: only one Eli 1.0 due to MWL, -1 Fire Wall +1 Tollbooth, -1 Medical Research Fundraiser +1 Cyberdex Virus Suite, -1 Eli 1.0 +1 Sensei. Try to push agendas early, closed the first game with Genetic Resequencing, closed the other with The Future Perfect, used only one Nisei MK II token. Won easily without being updated to the current meta (only Cyberdex Virus Suite, too many Anarchs). |
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@RedV
playtest this deck and often felt frustrated despite knowing the game plan. It tends to get a good economic advantage and I think it's a strong deck overall.Congratulations on your success at regionals!