Let's talk about Siphon/Keyhole Spam for a minute. We've had a lot of those in recent memory, be it MaxX, Whizzard or Valencia. And throughout this, one thing has become abundantly clear: facing them is unbelievably boring.

Touché, my friend. In this age we must fight fire with fire. I would rather play my Professor deck until time ended, and that neither of these decks were a thing. But that is not the reality we live in. And if I must be boring to destroy greater boredom, I will do so.

Instant respect for a polite response. :) And don't get me wrong I admire the passion and the enthusiasm. In the end, this is exactly what the game is about, thematically too, in that one side changes strategies and the other responds to it. The Jank is still alive though my friend, so don't lose faith :) Rock that Professor deck!

Was there any alternative to a polite response? There are too many trolls out there as it is, and while I would love to see a Shaper card called "Trolling", I don't care for it when dealing with people.

This list looks familiar...netrunnerdb.com

But yes, I think it has a chance to hurt horizontal decks. I've been testing a version with no Levy/Yog to fit in more Siphon (though maybe that should be more Apoc instead). The original architect of this deck has changed his up a bit. It's very good.

Yep, it's derived from that deck (as can be seen in the "derived from" section), but I tweaked it to fit Hacktivist Meeting and a bit more money.

I've thought about adding Investigative Journalism to make it easier to trash stuff, but maybe we're already punishing them hard enough...

@pang4 I should have added a winking smiley at the end of my first post, so you knew i was being light hearted, otherwise it would be easy for you to think i was just being a dick. :)

How do you go around Hostile Infrastructure? Seems to be all the hotness these days. I can see a case made for Account Siphon spam, but Temples and rezzable assets in general hurt this strategy.

Camp unrezzed remotes. When you're trashing stuff, you can usually sniff out the Infrastructures before using Apocalypse. Just being aware of the card, and playing around it is usually enough.

But in your description you say spending time trashing assets is a waste of time... That's what makes the museum decks good, you don't have time to check all the unadvanced remotes, and you don't have money to trash all the ones that matter. Sure you will ruin whoever brought Gagarins day (and by ruin I mean you will have a 60% win rate), but you can fall on your face to almost any other deck. There were cards that were in that Valpocolypse deck for a reason, and now those answers to other stratagies that the deck packed are gone.

So I guess my point is, that if you REALLY don't like museum decks, you have he option of playing this, but I think player skill is a bigger factor in who wins in a matchup with a museum deck. That's precisely why I like the museum decks in the meta right now, they raise the skill cap of the game, where something like doesn't.

Playing against a deck featuring Hostile Infrastructure the other day, I also realised with a shock that a Keyhole run has the runner trash one of the three cards that they look at off the top of R&D. So, you really do need to deal with those somehow.

A Quest Completed to play instead of Apocalypse when they rez Hostile? At least you can kill it there and then and still be alive to Apoc later. Might be a bit too hopefull to have them both in hand but its an option.

Councilman is how you deal with Hostile. If it's rezzed, you get in there and kill it before attempting apoc. If it's not rezzed, an installed concilman has got you covered provided you have the 5 creds ready.