Egyptian Valencia - 1st Place Gilbert AZ Store Championships

Attempting some edits- I've taken out 3x Keyhole (it never did that much, even in that last game. Jackson Howard is just too prevalent and trashing him takes up too much time. I've replaced them with 2x Hacktivist Meeting, since I have so much trouble with asset spam, especially if they have multiple Hostile Infrastructures, and 1x Singularity. Sometimes I hit the point where they have centrals super iced up, and a scoring remote with a ton of upgrades in it. So the trick is to DDoS and then do this, blowing up the server and letting you stop the advance and possibly steal an agenda yourself. I'll let you guys know how well it goes.

Have you thought about Amped Up? It helps make Apocalypse happen and makes early Keyholes so much more devastating.

I have thought about using Amped Up, but I found that the brain damage wasn't really worth it, because if I'm keeping cards in my hand (as opposed to overdrawing with Inject, I've Had Worse, clicks, etc) I'm going to want to use them. You should try it and tell me what you get with it though.

Which store in Gilbert, AZ?

Desert Sky Games and Comics

Also, @forktines, since I never really found Keyhole to be doing all that work (I usually spend a lot more time looking for Apocalypse), Amped Up lost the appeal there too.

Is the LARLA really needed? More pol ops, a third employee strike and maybe a hades shard might be more useful?

Given your not going Tag Me. Why Queens Gambit and Dirty Laundry over Liberated Accounts? It can be a bit awkward with apocalypse but I'd imagine you'll often just drop it and money up immediately.

@Hazzwald I was wondering about that, seeing as I've never really used it all that much. My mind is just generally afraid of running out of cards (with all the drawing I'm doing), and I like to have the option of a restart. But you're right, it doesn't seem to be needed, and I'll probably try something else in the slot.

@sruman I don't like Liberated because 1) It's not something I can play immediately on low money, so it sticks in my hand generally (as said above, any card that I keep in my hand is a card I'm going to be wanting to play soon), and 2) (like you said) it sticks on the board just long enough that it gets in the way of Apocalypsing. Apocalypse really is the card I aim to always play and always use, so every card that's in there pretty much revolves around not being in the way of it when it comes out or being able to capitalize on the aftermath. Queen's Gambit, while a bit clunky and has the potential to help the Corp, get's me money from zero credits and is worth the slot if I've used everything to get an Apocalypse out, and that bit of very burst economy often surprises the corp and either makes them do something they weren't normally going to do, or lets me in because they didn't expect me to get money so fast. On a convenience side, there are so many assets and upgrades flying around that I often have targets that are less likely to be agendas. Dirty Laundry is in there for the ability to both run and make money, which helps Apocalypse mmensely.

Update: -2x Hacktivist Meeting, - 1x Levy AR Lab Access, -1x Plascrete Carapace, +1x Hades Shard, +1x Utopia Shard, +2x Councilman

I've never found Plascrete to be all that useful, since kill decks seem to be out of the meta (mostly, from what I've seen), and even then it never stuck around long enough with all the Apocalypsing I'm doing to matter in those matchups. Taken out.

Hacktivist Meeting didn't seem to deter the asset spams enough for my liking, especially since they could fast advance out of it, so I'm trying 2 Councilman in the slot. I can generally take care of the asset spam with Apocalypse, but I need to be able to derez any possible Hostile Infrastructure on a dime, so Councilman it is. He sticks around, yeah, but I really only need him come Apocalypse time, and then he'll go away one way or another, so it works out.

The Hades Shard is pretty obvious- circumvent the Jackson by accessing at instant speed, but I also like Utopia Shard because of how it denies the corp the chance to have cards when Apocalypse hits. The plan is to run HQ, drop this, pop it, then run R&D and Archives (hoping for the random score), then Apocalypse. With 3 or less cards in hand, it's even harder for the Corp to set back up.

This thing is bonkers level fast. I ditched the Pol Op in favour of a one of independent thinking, and the keyhole for two mediums and a councilman. Councilman is more useful for this deck than Pol Op, whilst Indepenent thinking is both draw and a means of getting back eaters that have gone facedown. The two mediums are perhaps an odd include, but being able to medium dig a corp the turn after apoc that hasn't set back up at all yet is fantastic.

@herod1204 It really is though. Especially if you can throw down a DDoS early for an early Apocalypse. I'm not sure I like the Medium include, because a) it sticks on too long for me to like it in the deck, and b) the first thing the Corp does after an Apocalypse is protect R&D and supermodernize a remote. I do like the Councilman and Independent Thinking includes- I usually run through Marcus's or Information Overloads to get the face downs in the bin.

Sorry for giving you the wrong impression about that Bioroid deck's effectiveness~ I'm just not very good at playing Hayley, and my deck wasn't as good as it could have been because it was tweaked in expectation of more IG. Congrats on the win though, glad I never had to play you!

@Rhaplanca1001 Oh, naw, man. You did great- I got really lucky with the agenda pulls after the Apocalypses in my game against it. Her NeXT Ice were really strong- Don't sell yourself short.

I'd suggest swapping the Plascrete with a Sports Hopper.

Have you tried Run Amok in this deck?

@Protégé I've found that with all the draw in this deck, the Plascrete itself wasn't needed, nor anything like it. I'd thought about Sports Hopper before, but since I was taking out the Plascrete and it's slot anyway, I haven't put it in.

@Hazzwald I have, and I've found that it's a kinda worse Blackmail. The Corp will never want to rez anything you Run Amok, so it's like a Blackmail, but it's terrible for setting up an Apocalypse because, if they know that's your goal, they will rez the ice and stop your run. Run Amok doesn't do what you want it to do when you want to do it, so I took them out.

Stim Dealer? An Apoc turns off it's damage and you have a few turns of extra clicks to work with.

@AsteriskCGY I like the idea, but it's a bit too dangerous for me. There's always the chance that the Corp will be able to stop the Apocalypse, and then it sits there and kills you. A nice idea, but like most of the resources I've considered, it would sit around too long, and you REALLY don't want that with Stim Dealer.

@VixinXiviir Plascrete or not, some form of SEA+Scorch+Scorch protection is useful. Sports Hopper has the advantage of not being totally useless if the opponent isn't playing a kill deck but it still prevents the combo.

@Protégé The Scorch protection doesn't work in this deck simply because it doesn't stick on the field. The Sport's Hopper, if I used it, would just be trashed when I Apocalypse to keep it from trunign face down. I can't have Scorch protection in here, other than I've Had Worse, because it doesn't stick around long enough for it to matter.

Do you just lean on Eater more or on Blackmail/DDoS? If you're hard pressuring with Eater, how does this deck deal with a rezzed Turing over centrals? If that happens early, especially if it's over R&D, then this deck feels like it would be totally hosed. Do you just play hoping that your opponent doesn't figure out your game plan in time?

@PurinaBisonChow I have been hosed by a Turing on centrals, but it was the fault of chance mostly. I knew the HB deck had a Turing on a Central, but I wasn't sure if it was on HQ or R&D. I was planning on Blackmailing one to get around it and Eater the other central, but I didn't Blackmail the one that had the Turing. I rely on Eater and DDoS/Blackmail pretty equally to make sure I can get the Apocalypse off, but generally the plan if they manage to rez a Turing on a central is to hope they overdraw and throw another one in the bin so we can Immolation Script it.

The good news, at least, if they rez a turing over a central is that they generally seem to think that you're trapped and start building a scoring remote. That's when you go digging for your Blackmails and sail on through.

Update: Apparently this deck makes people cry on Jinteki.net.

I am sorry.

@VixinXiviirHey dude, I tried building this deck today and got a little lost recreating it as I followed through your comment posting. Is there any chance you could post your current decklist as a seperate deck that used this one as an inspiration, maybe a V2 or something?

Also, in the single game that I played with it so far, I was a bit confused on the playstyle. With Eater and D4v1d in the deck, do you run at central servers to force the corp to rez ice even when it won't give you an access, or do you never run central servers until an apoc is ready, so that you can rely on Blackmail and DDoS to get you in? I tried the latter strat and, while I ended up winning, the corp was sitting on a huuuuge amount of credits as a result of never getting econ drained. It didn't feel quite right.

@Brackhar Here's the link to the updated list: netrunnerdb.com

Strategy-wise, I generally just spend my time clicking for Creds, drawing either with clicks or IHW or Inject, and trying to run assets to keep the Corp poor. At least, until I get enough Blackmails/DDoS's/Eaters to Apocalypse. Sometimes I'll run a central with just Eater to force a rez, but only when I know I have enough money to get through it and only if it's absolutely necessary. Unless you have very few cards in hand and the Corp definitely has double scorch, you shouldn't generally worry about the Corp having lots of money. It's not going to help them when you're Blackmailing their hastily set up scoring remote, Immolating their rezzed ice after the Apoc, and just generally Running Amok everywhere. I haven't yet run into a situation where the Corp still having a ton of money after an Apoc is a bad thing. I once let a New Angeles Sol deck get up to 87 credits with Targeted Marketings, and I still managed to blow up everything he owned and dig through R&D and Archives for the win. I mean, sure it might not feel right to let them keep their money (those darn 1%ers), but you're winning.