MaxX is still alive (FFG Regional Top 4)

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The power of this deck cannot be overstated. This list went 5-1-1 on the day. The true power is the ability to threaten remotes reasonably, Hacktivist Meeting and Net-Ready Eyes easily earned their slots on the day.

17 comments
15 Jun 2015 Jashay

I like the idea of MaxX, but every time I've faced her with my corps Blacklist just completely takes her apart. I've heard Crisium Grid hits the Eater builds hard, too, although I don't run it.

Would you agree that they're problem cards? Are there others? Apart from them, which is your hardest matchup? I'm worried I'm basing my opinions on how it faces my specific decks, rather than how it does in the general meta.

As to your deck specifically; why the 1-off Knifed? Is there a particular barrier you're hoping to pop? And how does it threaten remotes any better than a normal MaxX deck?

15 Jun 2015 Satellite Uplink

Blacklist is not as punishing to MaxX as people assume, although that depends on precisely how the Icebreakers are configured and I think Knight is a major part of securing your deck vs Blacklist (Knight guarantees access past 1 Ice to trash Blacklist). If you don't play Knight then things get much more tricky - watch your Corroder hit Archives with Blacklist behind a barrier and it's bad times.

I'm personally a big fan of MaxX (I ran her to 6-0 at the Regionals I attended, beating two players who ran Blacklist), but I wouldn't run it without Knights. netrunnerdb.com

15 Jun 2015 x3r0h0ur

I've top 8'ed 2 regionals of the 3 I went to. In the 2 I top 8'ed, I ran this style of maxx. It went 4-2 and 5-1 in swiss. This deck rips swiss up, and can hold its own at the top tables if piloted well.

I much prefer 3 armitage and 3 inject, but I'm sure theres a good deal of play. I like the idea of a console, unsure about NRE though. I've found Utopia to be wonderful with the overall plan, and for stymying butchershop. I do 1 hades, 1 utopia, 1 levy, 2 siphon, 2 femme.

I've recently been checking out parasite in the deck too, seems to really help the RP matchup, opening HQ for siphons, keeping ice thin on RnD for keyhole, and instanting vs HB rush decks.

Why no singularity? With cybernetics and blue sun glacier I would think at least 1 singularity would be important for you.

16 Jun 2015 pruneface

Do you folks think that Faust will become the AI of choice over Eater/Knight in Maxx? Given the redundancy and the card draw. Also plays nice with NRE, I guess.

16 Jun 2015 x3r0h0ur

The deck is mostly events, thats where your power comes from. Since they're integral to the deck, I would say no, Faust won't be the best add, but I don't know ALL of the stats on Faust.

16 Jun 2015 notminebydesign

@Jashay Blacklist can be a problem, but in my experience the corp is either too broke to protect it or I win out with what is left in my deck or currently installed. My least favorite match-up is probably Blue Sun: Powering the Future as the servers can be very taxing and Crisium Grid can get bounced and moved around as needed. That card is a problem but running a more traditional breaker suite helps so much in dealing with these problem cards as I'm still able to get so many accesses. The one of Knifed is because barriers tend to be the most taxing ice I encounter over and over. This version threatens remotes with a very flexible breaker suite. On the day the Corps I played continuously assumed that I couldn't just get dat access. Also Hacktivist Meeting does work as people refused to rez assets until it was dealt with and made Jackson Howard plays really awkward.

17 Jun 2015 notminebydesign

@Satellite Uplink Magic Dave! I definitely spent some time with your version in testing. Your build convinced me that Siphon MaxX is still a viable option, but ultimately I decided to run what I'm most comfortable with. The biggest fear I had was Turing on centrals denying me pressure and Knight fails so hard to solve that problem. Yog.0/Net-Ready Eyes was put in as a solution and it performed so much beyond what I was thinking it would. I actively dislike Knight as I feel its too expensive, slow and very temporary, its always one of the first things I end up cutting and even when I have it in my decks I end up never playing it. I've been locked out of a Blacklist server twice in games I've played, the problem is I didn't lose.

17 Jun 2015 notminebydesign

@x3r0h0ur Singularity has the same problem as Knight for me, its really expensive and really slow. Its 4 credits and probably 3 click, cuz Same Old Thing, plus whatever it takes to actually break the remote. I would rather just use my breakers to get an access. That way I'm actually keeping my momentum. Also it doesn't help with either Crisium Grid or Caprice Nisei. Net-Ready Eyes is at worst a Bad Pub with Eater. I will gladly take two meat damage for a bad pub! This combined with Spinal Modem makes a double Eli 1.0 server cost 4 credits instead of 8! The ability for this build to just threaten and never slow down is real.

@pruneface MaxX: Maximum Punk Rock wants all of her cards. I think if Faust is going to find a home its in Noise: Hacker Extraordinaire. Noise struggles in the early game with presenting a real threat to access and his economy is so weak until he has his engine going. This gives him a place to pitch all the unique 3 of's his build needs and stops the corp from rushing out behind a Wraparound.

17 Jun 2015 spags

After playing against you, I built your list in my head, and tweaked some things.

Differences:

-2 Parasite, -2 QG, - 1 Keyhole +1 Spooned, +1 D4V1D, +1 Singularity

I love 45 cards. Parasite, while fun, hurts the MU, I feel. I added Spooned for some annoying Gates, but may flip it into Immolation Script. Singularity deals with a lot of problems. V. HB and PE, I used it multiple times, wrecking econ and overadvanced cards.

Great deck! Used it a bit in the waning days of Stimhack OCTGN League IV, and went about 80% with it. Did get flatlined by a Blue Sun right after Wantoning. Bad luck.

17 Jun 2015 x3r0h0ur

Spooned and 2 d4v1d were my big changes over travischance's and they have been huge for me...especially since BS can really pull away from you. Having 2 daves let's you easily mull for it since its among the most important cards to find early vs BS, with knifed on back up.

17 Jun 2015 x3r0h0ur

Oh, also I went from 3 to 2 keyhole and it was 100% fine, but I run 3 inject. I can't see not running 3 inject either.

17 Jun 2015 spags

Should I go to 48 cards and add 3 Inject?

17 Jun 2015 x3r0h0ur

I mean I did essentially that for Madison, so why the fuck not? It was actually the +1 Dave +1 spooned that put me at 48.

Thing is, you will use your whole deck, so the "bottom of your deck argument" feels less valid, but then again I probably suck at netrunner since I put private contracts in my BShop deck.

18 Jun 2015 spags

In the post-Whizz world, not a terrible call.

18 Jun 2015 podoboyz99

How does your memory work out? I understand that Eater + Keyhole is your main rig, but to achive the flexability that you ideally need to have with your suite + parasites you must need more than 5, or 4 MU early?

18 Jun 2015 notminebydesign

@podoboyz99 Flexibility has almost no correlation to an amount of MU. Flexibility is having the things I need to run where I want. In a typical game I'm going to overwrite one or two of my breakers, that's how this deck works. Having a rig out makes it a known quantity, which aids the corp in judging scoring windows, I don't want that. The only breaker that is safe from being overwritten is Eater. I just focus on the access I want this turn. How do I get it? Can I get it? This ain't no Shaper deck, this is an Anarch deck. I'm not trying to build a rig, I'm trying to jack stuff up.

22 Jun 2015 poorhaus

I've been running a similar MaxX list for a couple of months and love that you're at the top tables with her. Congrats.

One each of the breakers is so clutch. And I love how much econ you have- even more than my build. One suggestion I'd make is 1x Vamp. Does wonders for RP, Mid seasons, and traps.

Spinal has been a favorite of mine and was the name inspiration for my Spinal Tap decks. I've recently been trying out Grimoire, Datasucker, Parasite and loving it. 1-2 Datasuckers has in practice provided a much larger econ boost than Spinal and ice destruction is so crushing, especially against Blue Sun, which can be tricky as noted above.

Punx not dead!