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I know that Stealth is going to be one of your biggest weaknesses ;) But beyond that, it's a very solid deck that I would not want to face with a different rig.

With this deck, try levy and howler. When they encounter howler you can drop another howler, to force them to encounter again. This allows you to put 2 eli, victor/eli, marcus eli etc. Essentially trading a card in hand for a click. Pretty good deal.

Successful demonstration will almost always be playable in these circumstances.

Whatever ice you have in hand, you can drop a Levy, drop the ice, and levy the second ice to hand immediately. Its the fastest way to setup the flatline - then run agendas behind it.

I figure this deck is predicated on Atman not being a significant part of the current meta (which it isn't presently, at least in mine). I really do think the deck is interesting, but just can't help but note that an Atman at 4 screws over almost half your ice.

Anyhow, look forward to testing it out, before attempting to analyze it further. Congrats on the win!

FYI, you can't use Twins with Oversight AI or Bioroid Efficiency Research. The ICE gets trashed/unrezzed before the ICE gets "passed", so the Twins' triggering condition doesn't fire.

@dodgepong that's assuming that they're able to break the piece of ice... which they should if it's rezzed, but there are certainly situations where this might not work. Say Janus is you innermost behind an Eli they click through. They might have a D4v1d to get through your Janus 1.0 and eat one brain damage. If you rez Twins when they encounter Janus, now they have to break them all to derez/trash the ice, or eat 5 brain damage... Ouch.

@divadus AI breakers in general can be problematic. Eater and D4v1d do some real damage, too. The goal with the OAI/BER plays is to rush them in a remote to score an agenda or slow down the runner getting through centrals. There are always trade-offs... otherwise OAI/BER would be overpowered.

@dodgepong yep totally acknowledge that. It's pretty hard to break all the subs on something like Janus, which is what I prefer to use with OAI/BER. I've also been testing with Wotan now, which is rad.

@chrispedersen thanks for the suggestions! I'd like to try a revision with Howler for making use of extra copies in HQ or to recycle the ones I've trashed with Twins.

@solendor yep, stealth rigs are not something I see very often. I'm hoping that they play just slowly enough that I can squeak out my 5/3 early.

Sure thing, just wanted to make sure readers knew that. We had a guy at our last Store Champs who tried to Twins a BER'd Heimdall after the runner broke it...he was not happy with judge's the ruling.

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I'd be tempted to drop the Oversight AI and Lotus Field for 2x Komainu... because that is another The Twins kill card as even if they break it the first time... they then encounter Komainu with twice the subroutines they have in their hand. Forcing them in a situation where even with mimic they either pay a 12-15 credit tax to pass it, ditch their hand and pay 5, or die. In front of any other ICE that deals damage or mystery ICE that could be a huge deterrent or death. Either opening up a scoring opportunity or killing the runner.

Also have you considered Sentinel Defense Program... it would turn every Brain Damage subroutine, into 2 Damage... making even 3 brain damage lethal to a hand of 5. Or 2 brain damage lethal if you score 2 by some chance.

You could also use Inazuma instead of say Komainu, and force the encounter... in which Twins then forces the second encounter of your kill ICE. Not sure if that is at all necessary, but it is food for thought.

Komainu has one great thing going for it. Its a one rez kill card - where merlin requires all three merlins. Its a pretty strong advantage.

However. Komainu often dies to parasite, reducing its utility. Foundry has significant econ issues. Fun, but it requires significant changes to the deck.

Komainu is heavy influence and requires 2 to be in the deck to make Foundry/Twins work. I think the OAIs are doing more work. I also think that being a Sentry works against the strategy of trying to catch the runner off guard. I like that with Merlin and Janus in the deck, I have two ICE subtypes that can generate the flatline.

Two Merlins is 4 net damage... this is still going to surprise some runners and flatline. One each of Merlin and Twins is plenty fatal.

If I wanted to include a sentry kill card, I would probably drop a zed behind a rezzed eli. Basically looking for those crim types that go running with a single faerie......

This deck was BRUTAL to play against. I only played against it once with Valencia, and somehow I pulled off the win. It was a close game though. Watching it play in the top 8, I still have no idea how I didn't slam into a Merlin or Twins trap. Very well played Ryan, and congragulations on the win!

I've been running a deck very similar to this. I use Howler and Port Anson Grid, which is a bit clumsy but somewhat effective.

How does Awakening Center work with The Twins? I was of the impression that the ICE on AC is not "protecting" the serve, so you cannot trigger The Twins off of the ICE installed there. Is that correct or am I mistaken?

Correct, AC ICE does not trigger Twins. However, it lets you force the runner to encounter giant ICE for really cheap, like OAI and BER.

is awakening center doing it's job?

I'm thinking of cutting them for 2xhowler

That's what I did. Awakening Center feels less relevant in this deck. Howler is pretty good. However, be careful with Howler. If you rez it and trigger its ability, you've lost the option to use The Foundry's ability on the next card, and you lose Howler. One thing you can do is Rez howler and don't trigger the subroutine that turn. The next time they run that server in a subsequent turn, you trigger howler and install Janus or some other such awesomeness, rezzing it, and fetching another Janus or said awesomeness (if they aren't running on a server with the Twins, this doesn't matter so much).

I stated this above, but to reiterate, consider running a couple Port Anson's with Howler. Otherwise the runner can jack out prior to hitting whatever you install with Howler.

Lastly, Brian-Taping Warehouse from The Valley should be pretty decent in this deck. I plan on running it this Saturday.

@mcpba No, Awakening Center was the first card cut when I went to version 1.1. I included a third Twins after seeing how awesome it was and added a Strongbox of all things. Strongbox is neat because it LOOKS like a Twins in a remote, then they spend all clicks getting through Janus/Wotan/Heimdall ugliness and you can protect your agenda for 3c! Combos well with the ELP, too.

@Shift Agreed that I would try Howler before going back to AC again. Port Anson is very interesting, but it would require cutting an OAI which I'm not thrilled about. I could see BTW replacing the three Eve Campaigns, but this could also backfire against a runner with enough econ and a full breaker suite. I think BTW looks better to me in a Stronger Together deck with the cheaper Bioroids.

Yeah I've liked strongbox. BTW isn't eligible for Saturday.

@TheRyanBurke what did you cut for the third twins for influence?

@cremator I cut the Lotus Fields for Quandaries and ACs for 3rd Twins and Jackson. Also trying swapping the Ichis for Wotans and that's been interesting!

but aren't the ichis great for trashing programs and giving brain damage?

Wotan doesn't do anything than stopping the runner and I hate to see a second wotan, I would never put more than one into the deck.

@mcpba They are, but with the pace I've observed this deck operate at, it seems to make sense to maximize click compression instead of looking for program destruction. One Wotan is great, but multiples can be fed into Twins to basically guarantee a scoring window. If someone actually breaks a Wotan I rezzed with OAI/BER, I am happy to rez a second one the same way ;)

I love the Merlin Grail idea. I've already seen Janus + Twins, but a Code Gate kill combo is just fantastic! :D Will definitely try it out :)

Hey @theryanburke! Have you made any additions to this since The Valley and Breaker Bay?

thinking of Heinlein Grid specifically but not sure what I would pull in place of it.

@triplenine nope, nothing in SanSan yet strikes my fancy in this style. Heinlein is cool, but you're spot on about deck slots. I think you want Heinlein and Ash together, but now we're getting into a different deck altogether.

Has Enhanced Login Protocol been a decent one-off?