Never getting back together- 4th Reading Regional 87 players

day job #3 seems like the 46th to me. Cool list; may try it out!

Isn`t problem with MU ? There are a lot of programs and just 4 MU... And btw for me: -1 David and +1 Networking, cause there is so much SYNCs and Hard-Hitting News all around.. :o)

Read the description - the deck doesn't clear tags. Why does it want Networking? Also, D4v1d would be the last card I'd drop.

And I imagine that the intention is not to install all the programs at once. Eater, Keyhole + whatever else you need.

@moistloaf 46 cards is the new Tier 0 - didn't you know ;)

@Phoenix-> ups, sorry I missed "not clearing tags" in description... :o/ So I think I try to -2 Liberated Accounts, +2 Vigils

@Krastyi think you need the liberated for early game set up, where as console is a nice to have by not essential. The rig isn't install everything, you just get what you need. If you are going for a console I'd prefer grimoire over vigil though!

Hope you enjoy it.

Congrats on the high placing with Null! I love this deck. Personally, I have a different take on Null, but this is very creative. :)

Proud of my favourite MLP fan for doing so well with this.

Honestly, I think it's better than my Whizzard list that I won with.

Intriguing list, and really cool to hear that it performed so well. If I may ask, what were the specific match-ups it came up against and how did it fare on the day? Did NEH put in most of the wins? Did they both drop a couple? Or was Null the key to victory?

Thanks @divadus null dropped 1 more game than NEH over the course of the weekend (7 rounds of Swiss and then 4 games in the cut). The final game it lost was against @beyoken and his ETF deck. It's available to watch on neoreadinggrid twitch. Was a really close game I was unlucky not to win.

The deck is really solid, it does have a higher entry threshold than a lot of runner decks like I said. It's a very reactive control deck.

I play a variant of this running -1 D4v1d, -1 Planned Assault, -1 Day job, +1 Levy +1 Grimoire. The amount of times I find I need D4 is pretty minimal, and I never feel good playing Day Job and Planned Assault. It also lets me Inject through the deck faster, and on the second time around (if you get there) you're moving at such high pace that the corp just can't keep up. The Grimoire is there so I can kill Str 3 and less Ice in the same turn.

Berenzens changes sound pretty good, although after playing about 10 games on JNet (while not the same as face to face) The number of times I had SoT on the table and next turn used Planned Assault, then SoT Siphon was high... And it really ruins their day.

Cool CoolNull

@berenzenI don't think this deck needs Levy, it doesn't have the draw that Dumblefork or MaxX does. While Planned Assault would ideally be a 3rd Siphon it's a good alternative that gives you access to the Cutlery event that you need. Also you really want to see Siphon early as you'll use much of your recursion on it, dropping Planned Assault makes the odds so much worse, and therefore the deck worse imo.

The need for David is actually specific to one match up (though obviously useful in many) and that is against CTM, where your game plan is to Siphon them and use their money to trash their stuff, here Resistor is a huge pain that you need an answer to. Hence the David.

Played with planned assault a little bit more, and I do like it. Agreed on the d4, but I still don't like the Day Jobs. 99% of the time they're just food for Null. I just cut the day jobs for a Deja and a Grimoire now. The extra MU is nice, and killing str 3 ICE is really nice. Once Blood Money drops, Corroder is getting swapped for Paperclip, and probably rest of the WW2 breakers if they're efficient enough.

I think you need Day Job if you cannot land the first Siphon. If you do, great, but if not you have very little economy, you could try other economy but you need some for sure.

Agreed on Paperclip.

People are saying they would cut Day Job, but it seems to me like you would probably rather cut Liberated before Day Job. The difference between 2 and 6 credits to play them is quite a lot.

Also, what about the possibility of switching to Val and plan to rebirth to Null? Or is that just too unreliable for this sort of strategy?

@berenzen``@CerberusWhy Paperclip and not Nfr? I get that you would break barriers fewer times with a normal icebreaker than with Eater and Paperclip saves you some MU, however, Nfr is just more efficient and cheap-to-use, isn't it?

I curse the day NetrunnerDB decks started their description with a .GIF ..... I guess it's too pop now ....

I just like the gif and the name :D, Not got anything really helpful to add...

The easiest switch IMO is -1 Same Old Thing, +1 Déjà Vu. It works better with Inject (get programs back) and Wanton Destruction (can run it with full clicks.)

Deciding between Paperclip and Nfr isn't obvious. Paperclip gives you a free discard (and brings itself back from Inject), but Nfr synergizes with Null: Whistleblower's strength reduction for efficiency. However, this deck doesn't run Datasucker, Injection Attack, or anything else to support Nfr, so I think Paperclip is the right choice here.

Day Job vs Liberated Account depends entirely on the amount of time you spend below 6 credits.

Once BOOM! comes out, you'll probably have to change the Sports Hoppers into Plascrete Carapaces.

I can't comprehend a Null deck without 3 parasite. Makes no sense.

Had a lot of fun with a variant of this tonight.

One observation--I don't think you need a corroder if you're running 2x D4v1d, which is perfectly capable of dealing with wraparound. Unless there's a non-wraparound reason for corroder that I'm missing, I'd rather have a second spooned to deal with magnet and lotus field.

1) The point is that this deck CAN set up a full breaker suite to get into a remote. Often against Eater Siphon Keyhole decks Corporations try to rush out thinking their gear check ice cannot be broken and this presents a surprise.

2) There is only so much recursion in the deck, much of which you want for Siphon and not to recur D4V1D to beat Wraparound as well as Resistor, Tollbooth, Archangel, Little Engine I.e. All of yellows favourites.

3) By removing corroder you reduce your consistency and risk not being able to land an early Siphon.

4) Why are Magnet and Lotus Field an issue? 2 and 3 credits respectively isn't too big a deal.

You may never install a corroder in a game. The same goes for Yog and Mimic. They are all for specific situations, but having them around is generally better than not I feel (although I would go with Paperclip now that Blood Money is out).

@Phoenix

Interesting, thanks for the detail. Seems like different approaches to piloting. I took out the yog and corroder for a 3rd parasite and another spooned = a more aggressive approach to killing ice, which seemed to work well. The combination of aggressive siphoning and killing rezzed ice makes it very tough for the corp to keep momentum.

1) To get into a remote, if possible I would bankrupt the corp with siphon to prevent rezzes, or if necessary to use parasite/cutlery to kill the protecting ice.

2) This seems like the main reason to include. But as you say, it's for specific situations--most of the time we don't need to recur for wraparound (and hopefully it can be knifed anyway).

3) Having 3xeater, removing corroder doesn't impact the ability to land a siphon.

4) I was focusing on using Para+Null's ability to kill ice (see #1) making magnet and lotus field an issue, as neither can be killed with para.