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It is said that fighting a Jujitsu master is like wrestling with an empty jacket.
Everything costs a premium to trash. Tori Hanzō on archives inflicts brain damage. Chairman Hiro reduces the runner's hand size to with striking range of Ronin when the time is right. In the mean time, the runner is either broke from trashing cards or stymied by cards too expensive to trash.
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8 Mar 2015
mo0man
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8 Mar 2015
yarsiemanym
But if they access Tori first then there will be facedown cards in archive so she will cost more to trash ;-) |
8 Mar 2015
yarsiemanym
Maybe. But card slots are scarce, and since there's already sufficient economy in the deck, I don't think it's necessary. |
8 Mar 2015
lolpaca
They'd probably make you more cash than Pad Campaign, up to you though! Looks interesting, I'd be interested to hear how well it works :) |
8 Mar 2015
MarbleMunkey
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8 Mar 2015
rumirumirumirumi
0 ice is begging to get wrecked by MaxX and Criminals. With 1 Fetal AI and no Snare! the R&D lock is the surefire win. Runner decks have economy enough to be able to get through ice and trash cards, so even with the increase in trash costs without needing to break any ice the runner will have plenty of money to trash important things (in this decks case, that's Ronin and cards out of R&D). Server Diagnostics will get you plenty of money, but you don't really have much to use that money on without ice to rez. There's nothing really threatening in remotes, so the extra clicks they have from drawing up and running R&D can be used to check every remote with no problem. Philotic and NAPD are going to be a pain to score. I'm curious how it does, but I don't hold very high hopes. |
8 Mar 2015
yarsiemanym
I wouldn't go so far to say it's a world class deck but it's fun and has done well in a semi-competitive meta. |
8 Mar 2015
yarsiemanym
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8 Mar 2015
StarryVeck
Surely Hostile Infrastructure has a place in this deck? And maybe Encryption Protocol as well in place of Strongbox? I'm trying this out though. I love IG. More IG decks please. |
9 Mar 2015
yarsiemanym
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9 Mar 2015
yarsiemanym
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9 Mar 2015
Craloaa
So what do you do against Security Testing? Because most Andy decks run it...and in a competitive environment that is something you will surely encounter. |
9 Mar 2015
yarsiemanym
@Craloaa, let them use it on archives all they want. They don't access so they don't flip any cards face up. If they want to burn a whole turn to get the credits to trash a single card, I think that works in my favor. |
9 Mar 2015
Craloaa
Oops, sorry, I was thinking about the effect eater has when used before accessing archives, but I didn't really put much thought into it when I assumed security testing was going to do the same thing. |
9 Mar 2015
FarCryFromHuman
From the rules on accessing Archives:
This seems vague; are cards all flipped over at once when accessing begins, or are they flipped over one at a time as the runner chooses each card to access? The second seems consistent with the design of the rest of the accessing rules, since all other accesses happen one at a time. |
9 Mar 2015
FarCryFromHuman
When accessing multiple cards, the Runner accesses them one at a time in any order he likes. For example, the Runner may access a card from HQ, then an upgrade installed in the root of HQ, and then another card from HQ, if he has the ability to do so. Looking at this, it definitely seems the cards would be flipped one at a time. This means if there are 6 cards face down in Archives with a Tori Hanzō present, she would cost 8 to trash. Each time a runner flips a card in Archives, that cost goes down by one, but if one of those cards is a Shock!, the corp pays 2 to deal a brain damage. |
9 Mar 2015
CJFM
From the FAQ: "When accessing cards in Archives, the Runner turns all cards faceup in Archives before accessing them. Then he accesses and resolves individual cards one by one, in any order he wants. If the Runner uses a replacement effect, then he does not turn any facedown cards faceup. " You flip cards face-up, then access Hanzo, trash for normal amount. |
9 Mar 2015
FarCryFromHuman
That definitely seems against the spirit of the rules, but so sayeth the FAQ. |
9 Mar 2015
yarsiemanym
In that case, I'd probably swap Philotic Entanglement and a Neural EMP for 2 more House of Knives. Can't rely on Shock! or Shi.Kyū setup up Tori Hanzō. |
Note: since the runner order of access, they can always just access and trash tori before accessing the shocks, preventing the brain. Also, since tori needs to be rezzed before access, they'll almost always access her first