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thanks for all your hard work, alsciende.
here's one more goofy deck before the site shuts down. please use some of this ice to protect your servers from lawsuits.
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12 Sep 2014
moonwalker
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12 Sep 2014
FreshlyCrusher
I would much rather FFG just acquired NRDB or at least partner with it. This site does nothing but help the Netrunner community, which only helps FFG sell more products. FFG should be assisting this site, not hurting it. |
12 Sep 2014
Kenan
There's two avenues I know of: First is the change.org petition that is linked at the top of the page. The second is to go to Fantasy Flight's User support page and lodge a complaint. I filed mine under the Public Relations and Press Inquiries department as that seemed to be the most appropriate considering this is a PR issue for FFG with the Netrunner community. |
12 Sep 2014
Alsciende
Thank you You're awesome, all of you. I'm so glad I did this website to help the community thrive, and I hope so much that we'll find a solution to keep netrunnerdb. |
12 Sep 2014
ryson282
Alsciende, maybe you could migrates on a server that is inside a country that is outside FFG legal reach... Like in spy movies... |
12 Sep 2014
FreshlyCrusher
Migrating to a foreign country seems like a last resort. In keeping with the traditions of Netrunner, I think FFG should host it on one of their servers. Then, we should have to hack through any security systems they have in place to use the site. |
12 Sep 2014
BaronZilar
Maybe it isn't real. Maybe it was a Frame Job to give them some Bad Publicity. |
12 Sep 2014
7thson
Thing to do here is get a dialog going about what might allow the site to survive; removing card images, paying a licensing fee, or just asking for a job and integrating what you have with what they have. Seems like something should be possible. In the end , these IP issues come down to a 'use it or lose it' situation where they have to assert their rights or they waive their ability to. |
12 Sep 2014
FreshlyCrusher
I agree. It's hard to think of what comes next when we don't know exactly what FFG doesn't like. If it's just images, that's a fairly easy fix. If it's something else, who knows? Maybe the community could help figure something out. I certainly wouldn't mind contributing some of my expertise with web development. |
13 Sep 2014
federicolatini
If FFG take down this I'll have a recurring credit each run I make against their servers, that will be such a bad publicity for them. Overall I hope they are smarter than that! |
14 Sep 2014
Wimpgod
Alsciende, the knowledge that I have gained playing other people's decks and tweaking this or that, reading the discussions, has been awesome. YOU are awesome! :) I hope FFG will work with you and keep this knowledge base for ANR accessible for us all. I've bought 2 core sets and 2 of every data pack realeased, from my LGS. NetrunnerDB makes this game so much more fun and interesting to play. Good luck to you and yours, my friend. :) |
14 Sep 2014
Leviathan
I really don't want to see this site die! It's a great tool. A HUGE boon to the community. It could be the high res card art and soliciting of donations went too far. I realize Alsciende needs to eat, but collecting revenue in any way from another company's IP is pretty ballsy. :) I really hope Alsciende and FFG can come to some sort of arrangement. I wish Alsciende the best of luck and in a worst case scenario I will be hosting the open source version of netrunnerdb on my own server for personal use, haha. |
14 Sep 2014
FreshlyCrusher
I feel that the most likely scenario is that FFG is positioning itself to have more of an online presence for its games. I mean, if that isn't the case, websites like NetrunnerDb only serve to increase Netrunner's revenue for FFG (and at no cost to FFG). But since FFG is trying to reign in all these sites, it's probably intending to so something with it that it couldn't do before. I wouldn't be surprised if FFG came out with a LCG or Netrunner-specific game client that allow users to create decks with high-quality images and play with them online against others. If this is the case, that certainly doesn't justify FFG's actions here. I would like to see them at least acknowledge NRDB's contribution. But that remains to be seen. |
2 Mar 2016
Seanwhat
how will salvage help defend against the lawsuit? it's the worst ice in the game. |
no reason to shut down a website that:
They could have just requested to watermark the card images or to reduce their quality, if that was their concern.