"ur ded m8" THE MOST DANGEROUS GAME v. 2.0

how do you put a picture in your deck description like that?

@CodeMarvelous If you go to edit your deck and go to the notes section, on the very bottom there's a line that says "Preview. Look here for a Markdown syntax reference." That link brings you to a page with a bunch of fun formatting tools.

For images specifically, you type !alt text](/path/img.jpg "Title") with an extra [ in front of the !

It looks like the main advantage of playing this over NEH/NEARPAD is that you can include Scorched Earth (NEH could do 3 DRT, 3 Snares, 2 Astro? Maybe 2 Snares, 3 Astro). Which is certainly a reason to play Weyland, don't get me wrong, but there are only three Weyland non-agendas in this deck which makes me wonder about faction swapping.

I find the agenda suite a bit underwhelming. Posted Bounty and Atlas are blank if they're never-advanced, and it seems that HRI requires runner misplays. Maybe try False Lead instead of Posted Bounty? It can be never advanced, and with Data Raven and Snare you can surprise the runner. The runner can't run on click 2 or 4 and expect to clear tags, but if they run on click 1 or 3 and take a Data Raven tag and hit a Snare then you catch them off guard and they're forced to float a tag.

@Corence Thanks for the suggestions. The real origin of this deck was actually playing an old NEH Butchershop that ran DRTs, loving it, and wanting to make it work in a different ID. My reasoning at that time was that NEH "protects" its assets by spamming them so hard, IG protects them through archives (but doesn't have enough influence), and Gagarin protects them by discouraging runs through the tax. At the end of the day, Gagarin probably works better when the tax is actually being levied rather than merely threatened, but this is an experiment in the latter direction.

The agendas - I actually JUST replaced False Lead with Posted Bounty the other day (I've been running False Lead for months), and am currently testing it. My issue with False Lead is that it's easy to play around in most situations. The ideal "you hit a Snare! and then I end your turn" situation only works if the runner runs on their 2nd . The second I score it, people just always intentionally run on 3rd (if they don't have at least to lose, then you can't fire Posted Bounty). I basically have to pull off a double-tag when they have left.

You're right about blank agendas and HRI's uselessness. I'd like to stress that I very rarely win by scoring out. For that reason, I rarely score out a non-over-advanced Project Atlas or Posted Bounty. Instead, I bluff them as NAPD Contracts, and hide them behind Data Ravens during points of the game where the runner thinks they can afford to let me score them.

Liked and Favorited for the picture alone. Quality stuff. I really, really, like the idea of Bernice Mai in Gagarin. I'll be trying that out myself - I want to even take it in a direction where it replaces Ash. Better yet - supplements it. Bernice fires, and Ash fires, then they take a tag and can't trash Bernice. Ooooooohh.

If you aren't scoring out, what about Government Takeover over the High-Risk Investment? They just let the runner score in 3 agendas anyway.

@RubbishyUsername Thanks :D. And that's an interesting point on the agendas. If I went that direction, I might also replace the Scorched Earths with Punitive Counterstrike, which are in many ways more reliable (although that would sort of split my strategy between tagging and not tagging). I like that framework a lot in Blue Sun: Powering the Future, because they can generally turtle hard enough to draw up your combo pieces before you lose. As Gagarin (at least the way I've been running it), my centrals are woefully porous, and anyone with a Sure Gamble and a Self-modifying Code can break into my "scoring" remotes. I'd also have to play the deck very differently, because low-point agendas are my most reliable way of baiting people into Bernice Mai scoring remotes (I can usually try to set up a kill this way at least twice before I lose).

I'll chew on it, but I think that's the direction I'd take a vegan deck that wanted to cheat their diet with an extra win condition.

I'm starting to see New Angeles City Hall more than I'd like, which gives this deck indigestion. As of the moment I have no satisfying solution for this - you can out-tax it if you can rev up enough pressure, or you can let them trash in by feeding them an agenda (obviously this only works if Fall Guy or Film Critic haven't hit the board yet). It burns so bad that I could actually imagine feeding a 2-pointer to Corporate Town just to get rid of it.

Security Nexus decks with 6+ have definitely caused me to panic (they can just walk through Bernice Mai and half of my ice before even triggering the console). I've still got more than a few Sunny heads mounted on my wall, but that may be more of a testament to why netdecking 'aint easy. So I might re-evaluate the ice suite.

the correct statement to make is

"omae wa mou shinde iru"

This is bonkers. You've lost it.

There is one very easy counter play: put a Bank Job down, and always leave it with a single credit remaining. If the corp rezzes DRT before access, choose Bank Job and take the credits instead. If the corp does not rez DRT, access and live.

m8 u gr8

@Brendan I think that's only necessary against the NEH variant of this deck. Bank Job doesn't enable you to jack out, so you still have to finish the run. This means that it doesn't counter Data Raven+DRT, nor does it counter Bernice Mai + DRT. Bank Job only helps you if you suspect it's a Snare!, but Gagarin's ID ability already allows the runner to decide not to access.

Freaking aussies strike again! The shitposting kings, all of em!

I don't understand this deck. If the runner checks every unrezzed remote, you are just going to lose, right? If you rez DRT, he can just decide not to pay the Gagarin tax. Nearpad in Gagarin is pretty much a bad idea I think.

@Labbes Correct me if I'm wrong, but the Gagarin tax is for accessing cards in remote, so when it triggers, the run is already successful.

@Labbes Unfortunately this is a common misconception (somewhat related to @Brendan's idea above). If you rez a Dedicated Response Team during step 4.3 of a run, the runner cannot jack out. As @Lupus Yonderboi indicated, choosing not to pay the Gagarin tax only prevents access - the run is still considered successful, and you still complete the run for the purpose of DRT firing. So if they ran through a Data Raven to get there, or there's a Bernice Mai on the server in question...they're ded, m8.

Rampant remote checking can be an issue, but this can quickly become quite taxing for the runner, especially when I start to place ice in front of the spare remotes. A smart runner will find and trash the DRTs immediately every time they come out, but they have to pay through ice and tax to check them (and I can, in theory, play fourteen of them).

More importantly, Dedicated Response Team accounts for less than half of my kills, because (as you indicated), they're quite predictable and counter-able by someone playing cautiously. But someone playing too cautiously often allows me to nail them with a Posted Bounty, followed up by a single, double, or triple Scorched Earth (often aided by an Atlas token that they similarly let me have). In a serious matchup, DRT's role is tax and misdirection, rather than being your primary kill condition.

I'm afraid I don't understand why the Bernice Mai/Dedicated Response Team combo would work.

Isn't it prevented by the same rule that says you can't use Executive Boot Camp to rez a PAD Campaign and gain the credit? Namely (and I don't remember the exact wording, which is obviously important...) that all "When..." triggers check state on everything in one go, and then process effects?

Keep the Gagarin faith alive!

@VaslavThey trigger from different things.

Bernice Mai triggers when there is a successful run on this server. This happens in step 4.4 of the Run.

Dedicated Response Team triggers whenever a successful run ends. This happens in step 5.

So when you get to step 4.4, Bernice Mai tags them and then when you get to step 5 they are tagged and Dedicated Response Team has its text and fires.

@mdprice Ah-ha, of course. Thank you!

@VaslavAlso note, other things that tag the runner during access also can turn on Dedicated Response Team. Things like Snare!, Argus Security: Protection Guaranteed or Ghost Branch.

Ghost Branch seems like the way I'd go about doing it. Like they just walked into an empty warehouse, and raise their flashlight to see an empty wall with "UR DED M8" spray-painted on it.

@Bigguyforyou518 Sorry, I should have been more clear: The case I meant where the runner could just decline to pay Gagarin was before accessing a Snare, because you would have to rez the DRTs before, correct? Tricky timing questions !

Step 4.3 is the window in question. At this point, the Runner has committed to accessing. Paid effects happen here - which will be the Runner paying the 1 credit to access cards. After the runner finishes his actions, the corp may take theirs in the same paid ability window - which is where the DRTs are rezzed.

The Runner has already made the decision to continued at step 4.2, and paid the 1 credit to access at step 4.3. They can't back out of it at this point. When DRT is rezzed in the Corp half of the 4.3 action window there's no way for the runner to change their mind. 4.4, the run is successful. (this is when Mai would trigger.) 4.5, access cards (Snare! - gaining a tag.)

Step 5 - the SUCCESSFUL run ends, meeting DRT's trigger.

...never mind, I'm wrong. Gagarin tax happens at 4.5, but still doesn't affect that the choice at 4.2 (jack out/continue) still leads to the run being successful at 4.4, which still triggers DRT.

Yupp, but I think I'm correct in thinking that if it's a Snare, the Runner can decline to pay the 1c because the corp would have to rez the DRTs beforehand.

That said, how many people will think about this? I'd probably not think about not paying at that point either.

@Labbes Yes that's correct, Snare! in a remote is a risky bet that usually favors the runner, because you can "scare them off" by rezzing the DRT, and they can then decline to access. Of course, you can use this knowledge to your advantage by bluffing an agenda and "scaring them off" it in the exact same way :)

It's not ideal, but I don't see it as a big flaw in the deck. Snare! is here mainly to discourage rampant central accesses, or occasionally to bait them into my scoring remote for a massive tempo hit (but usually not a kill).

How was this NOT decklist of the week?!?! Maybe if you wrote a short story about Muldoon up there.

@GrantZilla1979 It's actually in the works, along with a dramatically improved decklist.

Don't be gettin' all fancy losing that sweet MS Paint style, now