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Hungarian Store Championship 2017 | #9 of 14 | TwadaCZ |
Watsonville Store Champs | #1 of 13 | Murphy |
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This deck helped me win the SF bay area's first store championship. There were only 13 of us in Watsonville, CA but included in those 13 were 4 Worlds 2016 top 20 competitors. Basically, it is a highly competitive environment.
Gain credits with cards such as Adonis Campaign, PAD Campaign, and Hedge Fund.
Install ice all over the place and agendas in one or two scoring remotes (sometimes I make two scoring remotes, it gets weird).
Use your credits to rez ice in front of your agendas and then advance your agendas until you win.
It is incredibly vanilla. Amazingly vanilla. The only spice here is Advanced Assembly Lines to install ice after the runner installs Temujin or Crisium Grid on HQ to block a telegraphed Siphon.
Also, it is incredibly fun and highly rewards player skill. If that sounds exciting to you, let's go into more depth.
Why Haas-Bioroid: Architects of Tomorrow instead of Haas-Bioroid: Engineering the Future?
Originally the answer was simply that the card was new and I wanted to try it. Around this time of the year I usually spend a couple weeks with NEXT Design: Guarding the Net. I don't know why. I just get in the mood to fire Accelerated Beta Test. So this year I decided to give Haas-Bioroid: Architects of Tomorrow a shot.
I finally figured out what Haas-Bioroid: Architects of Tomorrow does that Haas-Bioroid: Engineering the Future doesn't. It influences the runner's decisions.
As a runner, there is very little you can do to affect Haas-Bioroid: Engineering the Future so there isn't a lot to go on as HB. The runner is going to plan their turn regardless of your ID.
Most people I play against try to avoid letting me fire Haas-Bioroid: Architects of Tomorrow. This often results in a more passive runner. You get a better read on if the runner is likely to run and where they are likely to run.
There are also a lot of side effects. The Dyper match up is much better with this ID than Haas-Bioroid: Engineering the Future. If you have a Bioroid ice over your remote. You can pretty freely score agendas behind it because they can't let you fire your ability and rez something over R&D. For similar reasons, you have advantages vs Val.
You are also giving up a good amount of information by rezzing so sometimes you don't fire the ability. That part is really tricky. Also, you will straight up forget to use the ability most of the time until you play 20 games.
PAD Campaign is incredibly important. I will very often install an ice (ideally Fairchild 1.0) in the early game to ensure the PAD sticks. Getting a slow, constant drip is ideal.
For similar reasons, I really enjoy having Corporate Sales Team available.
Having 18 ice means I fire Accelerated Beta Test as often as possible. Having a Jackson installed is ideal but Advanced Assembly Lines will allow you to cover Archives with something like Architect in case it whiffs.
Crisium Grid is also an important piece of defense. When the runner can get through every piece of ice in your deck without a breaker, you have problems to cover. Watch out for Interdiction. Runners like Dyper are starting to play a copy to prevent rezzing cards like this.
Friends in High Places was a last minute change. This used to be Archived Memories but I would never use it to recur Biotic Labor (strictly a finisher in this deck) so Friends is just better.
Fairchild 1.0 is probably the most important ice. Haas-Bioroid: Architects of Tomorrow is not rich in the early game so having a 1 rez cost Bioroid is very strong to trigger your ability in situations where the runner is letting you rez your ice.
Architect is also really strong. I fire this way more often than I would in Haas-Bioroid: Engineering the Future mostly because players are assuming I am entirely on Bioroids. Now local players know better.
Fairchild was a test. I replaced Sherlock 2.0 the night before. I didn't really get a chance to see it in action, only installing it once and never rezzing it. It may change to something else eventually.
I have seen a couple other Haas-Bioroid: Architects of Tomorrow decks play Markus 1.0. Don't fall into that trap. You may feel slightly bad rezzing 3 cost bioroids with your ability, feeling like you aren't maximizing the full 4 discount. Don't play bad ice.
I was really happy to win the tournament with this deck. The top tables were entirely prison decks and I was feeling really frustrated about the state of things. Winning with Haas-Bioroid: Architects of Tomorrow gave me a boost of confidence in the game and the viability of classic style decks.
Thanks for reading. I'd be happy to answer any questions on specific plays or match ups.
28 comments |
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12 Dec 2016
Murphy
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12 Dec 2016
tzeentchling
Thoughts on replacing some of the drip econ with Melange Mining Corp.? I feel like, as something to draw them through a server and rez your ice, it seems good. This deck feels okay to play a little slow. Also, I found room for a 1-of Peak Efficiency in my versions, since usually you've got a lot of ice rezzed by the end of the game and drawing that single card for a +8 swing or more is fantastic. Consider swapping Fairchild for a Heimdall 2.0? Big barriers are good these days, I find, although admittedly it's not entirely great at flat-out ending the run. |
12 Dec 2016
Murphy
Heimdall 2.0 sounds cool but I fear it is too expensive for my deck. And they can still click through it. I used to simply click through it as a runner and happily take the brain damage. One brain to break that ice is fantastic value for the runner. I do like taking brain damage more than most I suppose. |
13 Dec 2016
dawspawn
It looks like there was a lot of Kate decks in the tourney (plus Andy and Geist). With all that link was 3 Ash worth it? |
13 Dec 2016
Grimwalker
In my attempts at AOT, it gives up too many agendas to Centrals accesses before I can get the ice out to tax their run tempo sufficient to think about scoring. How do you score agendas from behind ice that is fundamentally porous? By the time I can really take advantage of economic scoring windows the runner is on 4-6 points. |
13 Dec 2016
Murphy
I also try to not signal when the agenda drops (or signal the agenda is dropping when I want them to run). There are a lot of hints you can send. For example, drawing on click 1, installing an asset on click 2, and drawing on click 3 is a very normal pattern. It looks like the corp is looking for something, finding something, and then digging for something else. It doesn't look like the Corp is focused on the remote. A similar play is installing the agenda in the remote and then installing a second or third ice on HQ. That signals that density is in HQ. I'm constantly looking for novel ways to suggest the runner go down the line I want them to go down and compenstate for their truly optimal line. I wish I could offer something more concrete but it's really just a style of play. TLDR: I take calculated risks. Very often, I know the runner can get into my server and the runner knows I know they can get into the server. But we both also know they can't get into my server next turn if they go in this turn. I recommend checking out my YouTube channel where I commentate on local games and give insight into these sorts of matters. www.youtube.com |
13 Dec 2016
Murphy
They see you can't score an agenda next turn so they have to assume it is not an agenda. You score it 2 or 3 turns later. I did this once and it was excellent. |
13 Dec 2016
ANRguybrush
Only if Val let's you actually rez ice. Blackmail is a pretty effective way to shut down HB:AoT |
13 Dec 2016
phette23
While it lacks specifically anti-Val tech like EBC or Lizzie Mills, ABTs & the sheer quantity of ICE in this deck looks pretty good. |
14 Dec 2016
kollapse
Just got paired up against a newer player on jnet, running Yogasausus. This deck is quite sad now. |
18 Dec 2016
mate
Fairchild 1.0 is extremely good here. Most runners seem to leave drip econ alone when sat behind this ice, as it triggers your ID ability for low cost. |
19 Dec 2016
gegenzeit
Hmmm...5 influence to spend. How about 2x Executive Boot Camp? Maybe take out on Ash and a Hedge Fund (EBC should get the ID ability triggered more often)? I play against Val a lot at the moment ... I'm worried about being black mailed and mediumed to death without a single ice ever beeing rezzed (I know..there is ABT...but as the only plan, it is a bit too inconsistent for my liking). |
19 Dec 2016
gegenzeit
Addon: I'm also thinking about slotting Cerebral Static in, as Employee Strike seems to be the death of the game plan. So my employees aren't working? How about your BRAIN ain't working! |
19 Dec 2016
Murphy
Val is an interesting challenge. The ID itself helps a lot here but I have also been experimenting with Executive Boot Camp. I tested -1 Jackson Howard for 1 EBC this weekend (and -1 Fairchild for another Friends in High Places). I am unsure if this is the right slot but it is difficult to drop anything else. Jackson Howard is really bad to lose here as it helps fire Accelerated Beta Test which is REALLY good. So I am still testing! Let me know how your testing goes. Cerebral Static feels like too much influence. A current would be nice as I am seeing a lot of Employee Strike as well. Right now I am scoring out an agenda to clear Strike which is working well enough most the time. We need a decent 0 or 1 cost HB current that helps AoT to justify a slot I'm guessing. |
20 Dec 2016
Murphy
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5 Jan 2017
rwknoll
I'm curious about your comment regarding Markus 1.0. I have 3x Eli and 3x Markus. If there were another mid-range Bioroid barrier, I would swap out Markus for sure. Wish he was strength 4. But being able to install Markus, install Eli, and Hedge on turn 1 and then rez both for 3-4 is pretty nice. I am loving AOT too. Right now I am going full Adonis + Eve + BBG, and Biotic + 1x SSCG for the scoring plan. Hitting Eve + BBG on a FiHP, or Adonis into a BBG remote and recurring the SSCG, feels very good. |
5 Jan 2017
Murphy
I would like to have SSCG but can't give up my sweet, sweet Crisium Grid! I have since gone up to 2 Friends though. So good! The future is bright for AoT! |
5 Jan 2017
evilgaz
Good work on the win! Independently I've come up with a fairly similar list and probably share some, if not all ideas. FC1 is interesting - I've been using FC2 instead as it often has a tax effect if the runner isn't on Yog. It does cost more money, but I mitigate this by going all-in on the Breaker Bay / Campaigns economy. I like the idea of the cheeky AAL use, I'll have to check it out. 2x Crisium is a must I feel - I've been tempted to go to three! I've recently added a Best Defence, just to clear early SMCs and deal more effectively with Siphon Spam decks - sexy robots help in this regard too. Cheers! |
5 Jan 2017
Murphy
It sounds like you have more economy so I can understand the reason for FC2 over FC1 but I wouldn't change it in this list (Yog is a big factor here for sure). Best Defense would be great! I have a bit of flexibility. I can shift things around for 1 slot. Right now that is Executive Boot Camp but I may shift off that. |
20 Jan 2017
SHIEL
I just want to know, do you not play against much Smoke in your area? Because I feel like stacking Code Gates so heavily is just giving Houdini what it wants and making yourself sad. |
20 Jan 2017
Murphy
However, he doesn't play Houdini because Refractor is generally better. In either case, Smoke has to spend some amount of credits and that is all I care about with this deck. |
26 Jan 2017
the.jxc
Is Brain Taping Warehouse (combined with slightly bigger ice) not an option do you think? |
26 Jan 2017
Murphy
In the first iteration of this deck I played two Brain-Taping Warehouse. They seemed good but when I really thought about it, they weren't pulling their weight. I switched to more traditional econ and the deck just worked better for me. I still really like Brain-Taping Warehouse! |
27 Jan 2017
tzeentchling
Brain-Taping Warehouse also suffers from a few problems - it usually creates an open server that they can run on, either for Temujin or Security Testing or whatever, and it feels bad to devote an ice to protecting it since you aren't replacing it like with the campaigns. Plus, if you're not protecting it, Whizzard is just going to trash it, and I hear he's still popular. Lastly, if the runner isn't running, it's not doing anything for you, unlike campaigns that are actually making you money to be used for other things. It's frustrating, because if ever there was an ID that wants BTW, it's this one! |
27 Jan 2017
the.jxc
That's kind of the conclusion I've come to as well. BTW just isn't doing the job. Once BTW is on the table, the runner just runs last click, and we have no real way to punish them for that. And as you say, Temujin loves an open server -- but icing BTW is a waste of good ice! It is indeed a tragedy to see such synergy fail. But then again, I guess "synergy" is contextual. |
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