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2nd place Belgian Nationals Report with deck explanation : http://nedrunner.nl/the-rogue-road-to-2nd-place-in-belgium/
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6 Jul 2015
presheaf
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6 Jul 2015
Dydra
Well, no offence, but nothing really original here. Just a staple build with good ICE and ofc the must-play dual punishment for Cerebral Cast. Congratz on the 2nd place, must have been an effort piloting this, not being a tier 1 deck, but just some solid cards. :) |
6 Jul 2015
Argamas
When people say "no offense", it's usually is an insult. Well played Kel, your dedication to Jinteki finally paid off. |
6 Jul 2015
Friff14
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6 Jul 2015
Kelfecil
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6 Jul 2015
Kelfecil
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6 Jul 2015
Dydra
I've played a lot of Braintrusts in my Nisei builds from 1-2 months ago (feel free to check some if u like) and the others are pretty standard as well. Kitsune in a Jinteki deck with a Snare/Scorch is a pretty blinding obvious choice as well. Has been around since the card came out. I'm talking about the Eli 1.0 , Tollbooth ... Nisei got such nice cards recently - Lockdown , Clairvoyant Monitor , Marcus Batty and I don't see any of them. That's why I said, to me, it seems pretty "staple build" as far as Nisei builds go. The junebug is a cute oddie, but I doubt you've blown up 2-3 people with it. |
6 Jul 2015
Kelfecil
Well don't get me wrong, but I don't see them played competetively enough so I wouldn't consider them "staple". I didn't have Marcus Batty yet by the way, otherwise I would have played him and I would have probably done something weird with it. I had Mamba in the build before but I removed it for the sake of another Kitsune. I read some of your decks, and I think you should just go and read my Neural Secrets article on Nedrunner.nl to understand that we are pretty much coming from the same background (loyal Jinteki players) so please understand when I say that I don't like it when someone says "staple" build something that has barely ever even been seen on a premier tier event (let alone get 2nd place). The article: nedrunner.nl As a Jinteki player, you should know better and actually praise a player that managed to make something like it work instead of saying "staple build". |
6 Jul 2015
Dydra
I see where the issue is. :) We are simply arguing about different things. Your argument is that this isn't staple, because everyone plays RP. Where as what I'm trying say that as far as Nisei ( not Jinteki ) builds go, all seems pretty standard to me. This is by no means to take away credit from you pilotting this uncommon ID to 2nd place. As I've played it a fair amount, I know how taxing it could be on the player's mentality. So make no mistake this is a great victory for you and for the ID. |
6 Jul 2015
dodgepong
Don't mind Dydra, he's just being Dydra. Regardless, this deck looks like fun! I've been toying around with a similar Nisei Division deck, but including Batty now that he's out. I'm still finding my way on it in terms of glacier vs. kill, and I think yours strikes that balance nicely. There are a lot of different directions one could go with it. Curious about only 2x Jackson, though. |
6 Jul 2015
Kelfecil
Not enough influence and I really wanted the x3 Eli 1.0 and the x1 Tollbooth in order to actually be well protected end-game and be able to score. I don't really like Jackson Howard though, it just felt essential with Noise being a thing lately (which was my demise in the finals! xD ) |
7 Jul 2015
Glitch
Congrats on the high placement at Nationals, it's always great to see underdog style IDs getting some of the spotlight! |
7 Jul 2015
zboisselle
I read your deck list and have been trying to think on it a lot because I want to play nisei. When do you find it normally pays off for psi game cards? I do see you have some in there but am a little concerned it wont pay off in time to be worth it. |
7 Jul 2015
Disaster Area
Congrats, the fact you piloted this and Silhouette to the National Final is freakin awesome (x2). Inspirational. Kudos to you! :-D |
7 Jul 2015
Kelfecil
Thanks guys! :)
You can try it with other IDs, I just personally find Nisei really good when it comes to the psi games, that's all. (your opponent knowing you can spend anything from -1 to 1 credit instead of the normal thing is why I like it) Be reminded that just like Dydra mentioned, there are quite a few good cards for it now out there and Batty is a must-include right now for this deck. I just didn't have the Chrome City data pack yet. :) |
8 Jul 2015
SlySquid
As a Jinteki player I'm happy you did this good, but as a Nisei player I'm stoked that people can start to see the power this ID can bring, let's face it normal psi games are hard for the runner but now you can skew the game even more! Fuck YA! |
8 Jul 2015
pruneface
@Kelfecil I'm really digging the deck! I have some questions, if that's OK?
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8 Jul 2015
Kelfecil
I'm gonna make a "how to deckbuild" runner and corp pair of articles so I'll explain a couple things like those in there. :) |
8 Jul 2015
kmatz84
I can't wait to try this deck. I've been looking for a nice mix of taxing/kill/score out. I too an curious as to how you'd work in Marcus Batty actually. What are your thoughts Alternatively, maybe no Komainu and throw in a Lockdown instead? Cheers for uploading a fantastic looking deck! |
8 Jul 2015
Kelfecil
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8 Jul 2015
kmatz84
It's really hard to see where you can take away from. Maybe a Psychic Field for another Caprice and a Lockdown for Yagura. The more I look at it, maybe Batty fits only as a one of on a fringe case. |
9 Jul 2015
Kelfecil
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16 Jul 2015
ODie
Wouldn't Batty be excellent alongside Komainu? No need for House of Knives to get a surprise flatline of they have no Killer in play - encounter adds the usual X subroutines and then in the paid ability window, you deliver the X+1th net damage. |
16 Jul 2015
Kelfecil
True |
A Nisei Division deck placed second at Nationals without even a Snowflake? This is beautiful.