Everyone should try scoring one of these at least once. It's bananas. I can have whatever I want? Really? Oh, and I have to discard down. Of course I do, I just scored out a 5/3 that grabs three cards. There are two obvious things to go and get: 1/ A fast advance combo, 2/ A death combo. Very occasionally you might opt for 3/ ALL OF THE MONEY. That's an important possibility to consider when comparing this to High-Risk Investment. Packing one or two Beanstalk Royalties makes score-and-recover plays a little more feasible.

Bear in mind that this has a "reveal" clause, so if you fetch an Agenda to fast advance you have to show it to the runner. Maybe showing them a Hunter Seeker too will make them think twice. I haven't tried the death combo - my initial reaction is "too expensive, too many pieces." It strikes me that the reveal is an extra death knell though. LOOK - I'M PLANNING TO KILL YOU! While you're recovering from your big score, the runner will find their counter or money up against a trace.

Overall, a really fun card.

There are three types of cards: The good, the bad and the janky. The difference between the latter two is the list of possible combos and pie-in-the-sky fantasy scenarios. Zaibatsu Loyalty for instance is bad. Not only does it not have a power that justifies slotting it for its own sake, it doesn't have any interactions with other corp cards that could make it part of a ludicrous combo or game busting 1:100 play. By contrast, Mumbad City Grid is jank, because if the stars align you can make the runner encounter the same Komainu three times in one run, which is AWESOME!

Sunset recently got a promotion to serious jank status. Previously, it's best claim to jankitude was setting up combos with positional ice: Cell Portal and the like. But with the advent of AgInfusion: New Miracles for a New World, it suddenly has a new lease on life. Why? Because for AgInfusion every ice is potentially positional ice. Say you have a Chiyashi rezzed on your scoring remote. Ordinarily, that would be a significant but eminently overcomeable obstacle for the runner. But throw a couple of ice on top of it and then send them to the back with this card, and suddenly your remote is a seriously proposition. Now the runner has to break Chiyashi before you fire your redirect power. It's like a Nisei MK II counter that makes them encounter the Excalibur you've got rezzed on archives.

I've been playing this card some on jinteki.net, and just in case it ever becomes a thing I'd like to be in on the ground floor of saying that it is Way Better Than It Looks (TM). You heard it here first folks. Obviously it's a build-around card (It's pretty good Jinteki hate, but who's packing Jinteki hate?) requiring you to play lesser-used self-damaging cards like Stimhack, Stim Dealer, Amped Up, Net-Ready Eyes and even Titanium Ribs. Because your in-faction options are all brain damage, you'll want hand size increases too. Brain Cage is amazing with this because it's self damage AND handsize. You probably want to supplement it with at least one Public Sympathy for good measure.

That's a lot of Jank. I've been playing this out of Whizzard because he counters asset spam and lets you play a deck with some set-up time, which this card definitely requires. When Whizz rotates I don't know if this will be feasible anymore. It depends if anything else happens in the meta to counter the horror of Friends in High Places and related asset spam grimness (the last MWL only really cut off a couple of the hydra's heads)

Preamble dispensed with, let's assume that you've built up a bunch of counters on one or more of these babies. Is it worth it? Surprisingly I think it's arguable that the answer might be yes. For the Corp, a loaded Clan Vengeance is one of the most upsetting things it's possible for the runner to have installed. Its instant speed means that it's a constant threat. Every time the corp does something you could theoretically respond by trashing their hand. That's really unreasonable to play around. Here's a few things you can do:

1/ Run archives and trash HQ immediately before access. Do you like Legwork? As long as Jackson Howard isn't on the table this option is way better than Legwork. As a default use, this is a really strong option.

2/ Utterly counter any combo. Remember that this can be done as a response. The corp cannot Power Shutdown their deck. They can't count on having Accelerated Diagnostics after playing The Space Penguin. If they trace you with SEA Source or Midseason Replacements then the clan will protect you from targeted ordinance and civic redevelopments, no problem.

3/ Trash the corp's hand immediately after their mandatory draw. This option means that the maximum number of counters that has a practical use is six, not five as you might expect. It's also a handy option if you've seen the top of R&D and you disapprove of the line of play that it suggests.

4/ Make sure the corp isn't going to respond to your Medium by installing any ice.

5/ Trash HQ just before the Corp's last click. This option creates (even more) economy pressure. The Corp can spend their last click to gain a credit (inefficient) or to draw a card, which could potentially leave them with an agenda and nothing else in HQ. This is also the most satisfying time to smack down Friends in High Places. That's not a tactical consideration, but it is immensely gratifying.

6/ Trash HQ when the corp creates a new remote. Now that ice has nothing to protect. Alternatively, that agenda has nothing to be protected by. Or maybe they were planning to fast advance and they realised that they couldn't play their Biotic Labor before installing because...

7/ ... you should definitely fire this the moment the Corp plays a Biotic Labour with their first click.

I feel like I'm giving away a big secret by posting this review, because I haven't seen anyone else playing this, and even if it turns out that it isn't the best card in the world I promise you that it's an absolute blast use and abuse. Honestly though, it's actually pretty strong in the right deck.

This card is getting some love in the reviews so far. I really hope the positive reviews are right - heck, I argued in favour of Fisk Investment Seminar on this very site. I want cards to be playable and powerful and fun. Here though, I'm going to play devil's advocate. My suspicion is that in the final analysis this card sucks.

Compare this to Archived Memories from a purely economic perspective. They both take a to play. With Archived Memories that's the end of the story. You've recurred a card that you want in your hand. By contrast, Allele repression needs advancing before it does anything. 1 and a for each card you want back. Then you have to rez it for a cost of 2. Then you have to spend another card for each card you want to recur. That's some expensive recursion. Sometimes the extra cards you discard will be stuff you don't need: silver bullets that aren't appropriate to the match-up, ice that doesn't help your current board-state, Shocks and the like. That's not going to happen reliably though. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm not in the habit of putting cards that I consider 'junk' in my deck.

All this expense might be justified if Allele Repression was the key to combotastic awesomeness, and it's clear that a lot of folks think that it is. The card most often mentioned is Snare!, and I think that's the best argument for repressing alleles. I'll come back to it. Other candidates mentioned by Bigguyforyou are Neural EMP and Trick of Light. With the former, Ronin instead of Allele Repression does the same job better. Allele Repression offers more versatility, but it will never be king of the kill. The latter could be helpful sometimes, but you need an awful lot of advanced things on the table to make that work. If your deck advances things and then Tricks out agendas it's already quite complicated. More moving bits increases the need for your deck to come out in a particular order and put pressure on slots that you'd really like to fill with ice and economy.

At this point I should talk about Mushin No Shin. With Mushin you can circumvent the cost of playing Allele Repression and with Allele Repression you can recur Mushin. It's a match made in heaven! Except no. Mushin is in many ways an economy card, so saying it makes Allele Repression playable is like saying Hedge Fund makes Clairvoyant Monitor playable. There are already quite a lot of good targets for Mushin. The opportunity cost for a Mushined Allele Repression is a Mushined much-better-card. On the other hand, if you're recurring Mushin with Allele Repression then your strategy is eating itself. I'm going to install and advance a card in order to recur (with some additional expense) a card which provides economy with which to install and advance cards! It can't possibly go wrong.

So. Snare. I can imagine the situation where a runner plays Legwork. In the paid ability window after the runner has committed to access I pop my Allele Repression (which I'm imagining I mushined more than a turn ago and further imagining the runner chose not to run) and fill my hand with three Snare!s. I imagine the requisite Snare!s are already in my archives after a long hard fought game. At this point I imagine the runner's legwork will hit two or more of the Snare!s. The odds are in favour of such an outcome given the circumstances. I'm also imagining that the runner hasn't siphoned me broke because I'm Jinteki and that's what happens to Jinteki if it doesn't spend its precious utility slots on Caprice Nisei instead of Allele Repression. In this situation that I'm imagining Allele repression would win me the game. I'm sure it will happen sometimes, but probably not often enough.

One last criticism. It's a 2 to trash, so on top of everything else, it makes R and D porous. Like I say, I'd love to be wrong, but the bottom line for me is that the expense and opportunity cost just aren't going to justify themselves often enough.

Yes, a lot of what you are saying is very true. —
Allele Repression is especially useful in Industrial Genomics; it lets you place traps into Archives without having to overdraw while letting you pull back a few econ operations. I think once we have more Archives-friendly corp identities (Haarpischord also likes this card), Allele Repression will look a lot better. —

I'd like to make the case for Investment Seminar, but I'd also like to stress that the case is not clear cut. When considering this card it's really important to think hard about the massive downside before you start fantasising about the potential upside.

Just for a moment consider Investment Seminar as pure economy. Both the runner and the corp get 3 cards, but the runner has spent a card and a click to make that happen. If you just count up the numbers then the runner is down on the deal by a significant amount. That fact means that this card is unsuitable for a lot of decks. If you're not putting significant, direct pressure on the corp's ability to play cards Investment Seminar helps them more than it helps you.

Of course it's not that simple. Say you play Investment Seminar when the corp is at their maximum handsize. After their mandatory draw the corp is four cards over their maximum but has only three clicks with which to play. Even if they play a card with every click they'll usually lose a card at the end of their turn. On it's own this isn't good enough to justify the Seminar; the Corp's net gain of cards is still equal to the runner's. Additionally, they've chosen which card to lose - a kind of mini-Daily Business Show effect. Nonetheless, it's a step in the right direction. Forcing the corp to overdraw and discard either increases the agenda density of HQ or dumps agendas into archives. This plays into the Criminal faction's strengths of HQ access and broad early pressure.

The most obvious synergy here is Account Siphon. No, not Laramy Fisk, he's awful. Account Siphon. And maybe even Vamp. All the econ pressure. Emergency Shutdown. Crescentus. If the corp is broke, they can't play any of their shiny new cards. Their new cards aren't shiny at all - they're a painful memory of a carefully constructed strategy destined to be thrown into archives after a bitterly resented turn of clicking for credits. That's the best case scenario and it is awesome. Criminal aggro is where this card lives. It's not about gaining advantage, it's about exploiting advantage. It's about kicking the Corp while they're down. You don't have an end game, you only have now - but right now the Corp has 9 cards, 3 agendas and 0 credits. Good luck with that Corp.

I believe that the potential of this card makes it worth playing despite its drawbacks, but let's get real for a second. If this card is in your deck, you'll often draw it at a sub-optimal time. If the corp has only a few cards or is flush with credits, you'll be wishing this was something else. It's not an unproblematic 'good-stuff' card like Diesel. I think Investment Seminar can be OK even when it doesn't shine though. Your deck needs the potential to exploit it fully in order to justify the opportunity cost of playing it, but if all doesn't go to plan then it's not worthless. The trick is picking your moment. Say the corp has 5 or 6 ; If you can play a strong run then being overdrawn gives the Corp an uncomfortable choice: go broke to rez ice and lose cards next turn, or conserve resources and cede accesses to the runner. If the corp is looking to score an installed agenda, a similar dilemma can be created: Score the agenda and discard valuable cards, or spend a turn playing out cards and give the runner another opportunity to run the remote.

There are other uses too. If the corp is playing with a small hand, then Legwork can become a bit like The Maker's Eye. Conversely, if R&D is an open goal but you've already seen the top cards, Investment Seminar can give you new accesses.

I'd like to take a moment to say I'm not convinced by this out of faction. Two influence is two too many when you have either I've Had Worse or Diesel in faction. Noise especially is probably not a fan. Good players rush against Noise to combat his inevitability. Extra card draws help them do that, they're not bonus mills.

All in all I'd say this is an extremely high-skill card. Sometimes it will be a big win, but at other times you will have to think very hard about if, when and how to use it. I think that's what makes me like it so much.

This card gave me an interesting idea after watching a Noise mill win game online. I created a virus heavy Noise deck with three Investment seminars. Not at all a top tier deck, but fun none the less. (http://netrunnerdb.com/en/deck/view/439007) —
You only give it like a sentence, but this is powerful with Medium for the R&D refresh effect. If you can set up the game so that the corp can't use their new resources effectively, even better! —
I see it as a Diesel for Gabe whos going to be set up for HQ runs every turn with sneakdoor, HQ interface and his ID ability. Fisk only makes Gabes vanilla playstyle better. —